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7 September 2004

Paris By Night 74 – Hoa Buom Ngay Xua

“Co nhieu quy vi khang da cho minh cai quyen qua lon khi viet thu cho chung toi… Chung toi thay quy vi di qua xa roi day.” -Nguyen Ngoc Ngan.

Basically, what Nguyen Ngoc Ngan and Thuy Nga production said is that who do you [consumers] think you are? If you don’t like what we put out, go watch Asia, Van Son, Tinh or other productions. We don’t need you to tell us what to do.

What an insult. Are they forgetting the phrase, “customers always right?” Even if the audiences’ suggestions are invalid, they are still suggestions. They can just toss them out and not take them into consideration. They don’t have to publicly humiliating the viewers like that. It’s just inappropriate. What even worse is that Nguyen Cao Ky Duyen just stands there with the smirk on her fake face and notting her head to everything Nguyen Ngoc Ngan said. What would you feel if you were the one wrote the comment?

What is up with the double standards? Thuy Nga production kick you in your nuts with statements similar to above than turn around kiss your ass with the begging of buying their original products. As much as I respect Huynh Anh, Nguyen Hien, and Song Ngoc, I will not support their work through Thuy Nga. So if you haven’t seen Paris by Night 74, save your money for other productions who respect and value their viewers.

123 Comments

  1. Donny,

    I completely understand your point a view. I think PBN is under lots of intensity to the other competitive businesses, Nguyen Cao Ky Duyen’s personal political point a view, and maybe lots of negative feedbacks in terms of values and technicalities of the show in all aspects (I just assumed). I think Mr. Nguyen Ngoc Ngan forgot or unwanted to address directly to the audiences that who wrote them those letters. Its might just for their own reasons, just like many Vietnamese do sometimes.

    I think with the Nguyen Ngoc Ngan’s statement above is aiming directly to the writers, not the audiences. Trust me on this. They’re being opposed by many organizations (dislike PBN). And most of those organizations are very much against Nguyen Ngoc Ngan, Nguyen Cao Ky Duyen. So I guessed they demand rather than suggest to PBN. And in those demands could be constantly harassed and badly criticized. If you take a look back on those previous PBN videos. Nguyen Ngoc Ngan & Nguyen Cao Ky Duyen used to joke around in their fans letter. But not this time, because maybe this time, the matter is so serious of those letters due to the change of PBN and Nguyen Cao Ky Duyens political point of view play mostly part in this.

    Although, I said all above, I do agree with you on Nguyen Ngoc Ngans statement; that can lead in assuming wrongly to all of their fans (consumers) out there. Thats a mistake of Nguyen Ngoc Ngans statement. Theyre on the edge of losing it.

    Comment by Trung — 7 September 2004 @ 11:36 am
  2. NNN and the TN made a huge mistake on the statement that mr NNN said (My wife was totally ‘shock and awe’ with mr NNN said “neu anh muon an pho thi ddi tiem pho ma an…” and dont request anything that TN put together in their dvd).

    No more ORIGINAL TN dvd for my family… :-).

    $.02

    Comment by HB — 7 September 2004 @ 12:14 pm
  3. “What even worse is that Nguyen Cao Ky Duyen just stands there with the smirk on her fake face and notting her head to everything Nguyen Ngoc Ngan said.”

    Donny, I believe we call that “cho hua” in Vietnamese :)

    Comment by Hien — 8 September 2004 @ 7:03 am
  4. Trung, NNN said “qui vi khang gia.” The statement is aiming directly at the consumers. I am glad that the audiances didn’t clap when he said that; however, HB, I was not sure why they laughed at his silly and ignorant comparison about “pho.”

    HB, yep! No more orginal Thuy Nga from me either.

    Hien, that’s pretty harsh but “hell yeah!”

    Comment by Donny — 8 September 2004 @ 7:12 am
  5. “No more orginal Thuy Nga from me or for my family?”

    Come on now people, you know what they say;

    “Two wrongs dont make a right” or “An evil act cant be corrected with more evil.”

    Comment by Trung — 8 September 2004 @ 10:30 am
  6. qui vi khan gia. are the group of people who support them. I’m sure after PBN 73 and 74 this group is dwindle. At least decrease by one (me). On top of what you’re discussing, when the boring music are dragging longer, the apparels are getting shorter and, the babbling between the two on subjects irrelevant to the next scene doesn’t make the video worth to watch. I’m sure if this keep going on for a couple of videos more, someone will eat their lunch.

    Comment by songvinh — 8 September 2004 @ 7:19 pm
  7. Song Vinh, I agree. They are directly shooting at their supporters. Let’s not get me started with TN music part.

    Thuy Tien’s “Anh Cho Em Mua Xuan” is the worse rip-off (Tone Loc’s “Wlid Thing”) I have ever heard. I am sure TN productions ain’t dropping a dime for that sampling. So Mr. Trung, you want to be the nice guy, go right ahead. I am sure TN will appreciate your honesty.

    “Anh Cho Em Mua Xua” is an original Vietnamese song but with a stolen beat like that, it makes the song sound incredibly cheap.

    As we are trying to stay away from “Chinese melody” songs, the mixing of “Lanh Tron Dem Mua” makes it sound like the song was translated from Chinese melody.

    I am done with Thuy Nga production.

    Comment by Donny — 9 September 2004 @ 11:27 am
  8. I agree that Thuy Nga Paris production is getting more aggorant. In the early 90′s, I remember that there was one production hosted by Khanh Ly (Famous Singer). She is good as a singer, not an MC. I wrote an agry letter and Thuy Nga Paris production did improve. Over the years, since Ngoc Ngan and Ky Duyen are getting better w/ their MC skills, they begin to leverage that for marketing and other pilitical reasons, which I disagree. They forget one basic principle in Marketing “Customers are always right”. Sometimes, it’s best to just let the audience enjoy the arts.
    LT – Stoughton, MA

    Comment by Liam — 9 September 2004 @ 12:31 pm
  9. To me, I didn’t really find that comment to be all that. Ok so it may be a little off but I wouldn’t go there and say “I won’t buy PBN anymore”.

    And I know what he said was true and I have to agree with him….not that I like it.

    Comment by Me — 9 September 2004 @ 2:29 pm
  10. Sir Donny,

    You posted:

    “Thuy Tiens Anh Cho Em Mua Xuan is the worse rip-off (Tone Locs Wlid Thing”) I have ever heard. I am sure TN productions aint dropping a dime for that sampling” and

    “Anh Cho Em Mua Xua is an original Vietnamese song but with a stolen beat like that, it makes the song sound incredibly cheap.

    As we are trying to stay away from Chinese melody songs, the mixing of Lanh Tron Dem Mua makes it sound like the song was translated from Chinese melody.”

    ooo0ooo

    => Hey! We’re speaking the same language now.;-)

    ooo0ooo

    You also posted (addressed directly to me):

    “Mr. Trung, you want to be the nice guy, go right ahead. I am sure TN will appreciate your honesty. ”

    I think you got a wrong impression about what I commented earlier about “Mr. NNN’s statement.” Did I say, “Mr. NNN’s statement was a mistake” or “Theyre on the edge of losing it?” => So. How can I be a nice guy to Thuy Nga Production or Mr. NNN himself on that matter? One thing I can honestly tell you, Sir Donny and all of your blog’s readers is this: I never own (purchase) any videos of PBN, Asia, Tinh, Van Son, etc… Never-until-now for many reasons. They all are served me mostly unsatisfactory. So why do I bother purchasing them?

    For what Im totally against is the idea of making illegal copies”. And if you ask me how do I know what their programs are all about? I borrow from other sources (Public library, people I’ve known and etcetera.)

    Again, two wrongs dont make a right!

    Comment by Trung — 9 September 2004 @ 3:24 pm
  11. Oh great! Trung. Borrowing is a whole lot different from bootlegging. Basically you’re viewing it for free instead of buying the copy version. Yeah! TN will make alot of money from viewers who borrow from others. I suggest all of you borrow from now on instead of spend $27.00 bucks if you’re desperate for TN’s tasteless entertainment.

    To “Me” or whoever you are,
    That statement wasn’t all that? Are you serious? What could be worse than that? You want NNN to spit in your face in order to make it worse.

    Comment by Donny — 9 September 2004 @ 3:42 pm
  12. Ya boss! Basically I’m just viewing it, more of exploring it, never too crazy about it.

    Comment by Trung — 9 September 2004 @ 4:46 pm
  13. Aren’t we all just viewing it? I never get high from it :)

    In fact, I hardly ever watch Paris By Night the second time.

    Comment by Donny — 9 September 2004 @ 4:52 pm
  14. Same here! Sir

    Comment by Trung — 9 September 2004 @ 4:55 pm
  15. Is Me a interesting nick or name?

    Me=tamarind

    Comment by Trung — 9 September 2004 @ 4:57 pm
  16. Hi Mr. Trung,

    If you don’t like PBN.. then just don’t watch it. Or if you have problem w/ some thing the MC NNN said then be possitively send him or PBN a letter statting your concern. In most of your posts here , I can see that you are negatively against PBN and NNN. I guess you maybe didn’t like them because their popularity. When you compare something, you must base on some standard. So if you have watched other videos fro other productions or from VietNam… then I guess your hastten statement to PBN ang to MC NNG and NCKY were unjust. Unless you are working for their competetors.

    Good Luck on your campaign of disgrade PBN.

    A new Reader

    Comment by New reader — 23 September 2004 @ 7:17 pm
  17. To Donny…if you don’t like it…don’t buy it…geeze…don’t have to go in here and say how much you it…

    Comment by Me — 25 September 2004 @ 5:44 pm
  18. To Tamarind (Me)…you’re really sour!

    Comment by Trung — 25 September 2004 @ 9:39 pm
  19. LOL! I am not hating. I am just frustrating that Thuy Nga and NNN show no respect to their customers.

    Comment by Donny — 27 September 2004 @ 10:47 am
  20. Why did you separate Thuy Nga and NNN?

    Comment by illusion — 28 September 2004 @ 9:33 am
  21. Dear all

    I think NNN was brave to say so. NNN muon nam!!!

    Comment by Thao Tran — 2 October 2004 @ 5:39 am
  22. Singers, MC or video production are not “VAN CONG”, they have the right to choose their own direction! Customers can give some suggestion but have no right to force MC, singers or PBN to follow their order. NNN is the greatest MC who dares to say his true point of views.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 2 October 2004 @ 5:46 am
  23. “VAN CONG” => I think Thao Tran misused “Van Cong” in this situation.

    (Ddoa`n) Va(n Co^ng = Group in performance literatures

    I think Thao Tran meant to say something that related to the accusation of being Van Cong Vie^.t Co^.ng!?

    Comment by Trung — 2 October 2004 @ 2:32 pm
  24. Tamarind?? I’m not him/her…anyway…

    Comment by Me — 2 October 2004 @ 2:37 pm
  25. So what are you? Tamarind

    Comment by Trung — 2 October 2004 @ 2:42 pm
  26. Me chua!

    Comment by Trung — 2 October 2004 @ 2:45 pm
  27. “NNN Muon Nam” that statement reminded me so much of “Bac Ho Muon Nam” LOL!

    Comment by Donny — 4 October 2004 @ 3:26 pm
  28. You love “Bac Ho” so much that you think only he deserves the words “muon nam”? Are “muon nam” exclusive for “Your Bac Ho”?

    When I hate some one, I don’t pay any attention to that person or whatever people talk about him or her.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 6 October 2004 @ 10:37 am
  29. Take it easy girl. Your statement just reminded me the old days when I was still schooling in Viet Nam. Teachers always taught us to say that phrase.

    As far as my relationship with Bac Ho (there is none, actually). I don’t hate the man, he didn’t do anything to me. So go ahead and hate him all you want. It’s kool with me.

    Comment by Donny — 6 October 2004 @ 10:50 am
  30. “Mun Năm” is a common words of war propaganda of North Vietnamese, has been using widely in South Vietnam since after liberating (Giải Phng) the South Vietnam.

    “Giải Phng” is another term that has been influenced to the South Vietnamese people and heavily effected the young Vietnamese generations. Now, I wouldn’t say those terms are right or wrong in use. It depends on an individuals political point of view.

    As I remember correctly, this is their stigmas (slogans):

    “Đời Đời Nhớ Ơn Bc Hồ Vĩ Đại.”
    “Cộng Ho X Hội Chủ Nghĩa Mun Năm”

    Note: Ngy “Giải Phng” is considered Ngy “Mất Nước” (loss of the South Vietnam) to other overseas Vietnamese.

    Comment by Trung — 7 October 2004 @ 1:29 pm
  31. I see, Mr Trung! You only know the history of VN after 30/4/1975!!!! If you did more reading, more research on the history, you would know that there was a song praising the 1st Vietnamese president: “Toan dan VN nho on NGO tong thong, Ngo tong thong, Ngo tong thong muon nam!”

    Comment by Thao Tran — 9 October 2004 @ 9:28 pm
  32. Mr Trung

    Don’t assume every thing used after 30/4/75 has been invented by VC. By the way, do you know who was NGO TONG THONG?

    “Giai phong” and “dong chi” are in the same case! Nguyen Thai Hoc and his men used these terms as well.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 9 October 2004 @ 9:40 pm
  33. AND, the first sentence in the national athem used in South VN before 1975 is “Nay cong dan oi, quoc gia den ngay GIAI PHONG”. AND it was wriiten by “LUU HUU PHUOC”. AND, in a history book (written before 1975) described the execution in Yen Bay: “NGUYEN THAI HOC va 12 dong chi bi len doan dau dai”.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 9 October 2004 @ 10:33 pm
  34. We are out of the topic on NNN and PBN. The words “khang chien”, “giai phong” or “dong chi” were used in the fight agaisnt the French. There were many parties formed during that time. The victory in 1945 were not the deeds of the communist party only! But after the victory, the VC claimed that it was their own victory. This was also mentioned in a book by DUONG THU HUONG or you can read DOAN TUYET by Nhat Linh to understand a portion of the history.

    If you don’t believe me, just ask NNN and Paris By Night.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 9 October 2004 @ 10:49 pm
  35. OH! Sorry Mr Trung, I didn’t wear my glasses when I read your comments! Any way, this is just for people who think those words are “VC properties”.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 9 October 2004 @ 10:56 pm
  36. Hihihi! You must be heavily farsighted. Getting old!?

    Anyway, I see here; you have been reading Vietnamese war history and using them in your debate. Thank you for preferring me those books above. And by the way, NNN to me is just an ordinary entertainer, not a mentor or role model.

    Comment by Trung — 10 October 2004 @ 4:51 pm
  37. Of course he is just an ordinary entertainer!

    Comment by Thao Tran — 14 October 2004 @ 7:19 am
  38. However, no matter what you said, I think I understand NNN comments. My relative and I really like those comments.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 14 October 2004 @ 7:38 am
  39. Well, there’s a thin fine line between suggestions and commands. “You should have done this or that” is totally different than “You have to do this or that”. Just like asking for permition, “Can I do this or that?” is different than “May I do this or that?”. The same goes for VNese, “anh/chi. ne^n la`m chuye^.n na`y hoa(.c chuye^.n kia” is more like a suggestion than “Anh/chi. pha?i la`m chuye^.n na`y hoa(.c chuye^.n kia”, which give him/her no other choices.

    just my $0.02

    Comment by hoai nam — 20 October 2004 @ 11:10 am
  40. Hoai Nam, I agree with you totally but no one has the power to demand unless that person is Ba Thuy Nga. In addition, no fan on his right mind would demand what Paris By Night should do. He has to know that he can only suggest.

    Comment by Donny — 20 October 2004 @ 11:36 am
  41. People said “customers are always right”. Not really true, sometimes people have to deal with “customers from hell”. I think NNN comments are for those customers. Many people think that they have the right to demand other people to do this and that on behalf of someone or “something”!!!… Of course they don’t have the right mind, but they don’t think so!!! I read some articles from Vnmese magazines published in Aus or in the US and I found many of them.

    What if their demands are not obeyed. Cho+` u+ chu+ i chu+i hoi? CHU+I?. I’m spelling the Vietnamese word “CHUI”.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 22 October 2004 @ 1:57 pm
  42. NNN and PBN have been “bi Chui” too much. Now it’s time for them to answer the “Chui”. And his comments are more polite than those they have been given.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 22 October 2004 @ 8:53 pm
  43. Thao Tran,

    Yes, I have to agree with you on people “Chu+?i” nhau nhie^`u qua’! But that’s the way it is! in the democracy (Che^’ Ddo^. Da^n Chu?), people have the freedom of speech. And they have all the rights to exercise it. Sometimes it may get to the extreme, to the point it may get out of control. BUT no matter how crazy people are reflecting against PBN’s doing. PBN must has a smart way to persuade people, because PBN is a public figure; PBN (Thuy Nga) entertains (serves) people, PBN has to focus more in people’s satisfactoriness. I have to say that sometimes some of Thuy Nga’s members had commented and addressed to their audience in the way, which is not served the best interest for their audiences (also their customers). And for example; if some of their audiences are pissed, then there will be a controversy. Thats all!

    Comment by Trung — 23 October 2004 @ 3:46 am
  44. I agree with you that people have the freedom of speech. But some people just abuse this right. I believe PBN does want to satisfy and does listen to their customers. However, they must make the right decisions which should be done and which shouldn’t or which can be done and which can’t. President Bush was elected by (though not directly) the American people but he can’t satify all of the Americans! PBN has been improved. I must say that I bought VAN SON, ASIA and PBN and if I felt that 50% of the DVD are OK, I would be happy! Sometimes I bought a CD of 15-20 songs and only liked 2-3 songs! Sometimes I watched or listen a DVD or CD many times but didn’t have a “gut” to watch or listen some songs from beginning to the end.
    Because, to be a singer or an MC is to “lam dau tram ho”. No singer can satisfy all people. Some people like “mam ruoc”; some like “Pate^”. “Mam ruoc” and “Pate^” are both “ngon”. But one must know how to eat them appropriately. Don’t ask people who make “mam ruoc” to use the recipe for “Pate^”.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 23 October 2004 @ 10:59 am
  45. Hey Donny…Thao Tran is competing with you in “food” category now…Ladies and gentlemen…Thao Tran is introducing one traditional sauce dish of Vietnamese is “mam ruoc” eck..urhz…:P!!! And a French popular paste is “Pate^”…O^’i gio+`i o+i! Be’o qua’!!!High risk of bad Cholesterol…no thanks…:P

    Well! Anyway, your point is well taken by me beside the food introduction of yours… (Laughing!)…kha kha kha…

    One suggest from me to you:

    You don’t have to accept their entertainment overall qualities(DVDs) are just 50% are ok or 2 or 3 out of 15-20 songs that you liked that you would be happy! To me, that kind of very low standard expectation from music entertainment is nothing, Zero Nada Zip None (garbage). And I am just reminding you; these are products that you purchase (d) and if you just get only haft or less than what expected in term of 100% liking. To me it’s either rip-off or robbing your money in the face. I feel sympathy for you that you purchased a cd and liked only 2 to 3 out of 15-20 songs.

    For proving my point about what I said above; I absolutely enjoy “The Fleetwood Mac band in 100 % of overall quality. I mean I like every single song of their albums and it is worth every single dime I spent for their albums. And I never get boring to watch and listen to them (time to time). Thats ultimate enjoying music.

    Comment by Trung — 23 October 2004 @ 6:26 pm
  46. Ha! Ha! Don’t feel sorry for me. If I only satisfy 50% or 30% the songs in CD or DVD I bought, it doesn’t mean that those are poor quality. It means that I’m a choosing person. I buy them not because of the songs I don’t like, but because of the songs I like. And I believe that they worth my money.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 23 October 2004 @ 8:29 pm
  47. And, if you think “mam ruoc” and “Pate^” give “High risk of bad Cholesterol” may I suggest “Tom hum” and “cua rang muoi”.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 23 October 2004 @ 9:03 pm
  48. um…”Tom Hu`m” and “cua rang muo^’i” are yummy! High cholesterol but also high in zinc; good for male’s metabolism. Da.y sao kho^ng a(n!

    Comment by Anonymous — 23 October 2004 @ 9:20 pm
  49. The Tom Hum and Cua rang mua comment above is from Trung

    Comment by Trung — 23 October 2004 @ 10:45 pm
  50. If you’re creative enough, you can mix “Mam Rouc” and pete to make something exquisitely delicious. Who knows. You have to push the limit and maybe that something Paris By Night should do. They already incoporated Cai Luong and Comedy into the show, what else can go wrong? Asia is doing a great job of finding new themes and ideas to enhence the experience such as “Music Around The World” and “Mua He Ruc Ro.”

    Comment by Donny — 24 October 2004 @ 1:41 pm
  51. I agree with you that Asia did a great job in “Mua He Ruc Ro”. But the others are just OK (according to my rate). PBN also did many great jobs (also according to my rate). Good or bad also depends on each “khan gia”. Someday people may create some special recipe from “mam ruoc” and “pate”. And whether or not it is delicious also depends on the taste of each person. You think PBN is not good but many people keep buying it. Why? You don’t think it’s “yummy” enough, but others do. I have found that VAN SON, ASIA and PBN all are trying their best to gain our support. To me, I think we should “tra^n qui’” them support them in a possitive way. Comments on singers, MC should be based on “ti`nh ngu+o+`i” rather than to “cha` dda.p”. Remember that in our lives, in many situations we do need such “ti`nh ngu+o+`i”. Singers or MC are human beings just like us. We don’t want to be “cha` dda.p” when we make mistakes so don’t do it to them.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 24 October 2004 @ 9:32 pm
  52. I do not “cha dap” singers. I always stick to their music and performances. I do not let thier “personal life” influence thier music. In this particular piece, I felt NNN had stepped over the line with his statement. If he disrespect his viewers, why should I respect him?

    Comment by Donny — 25 October 2004 @ 8:37 am
  53. I don’t mean you “cha` da.p” singers or NNN since I don’t think you are the one who sent the letter(s) that he mentioned. So far, no comments in this page mean to “cha` da.p” any one.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 25 October 2004 @ 11:33 pm
  54. I also don’t believe that NNN disrespect “his khan gia”. But if you know that there are some people who believe that they have “the licence” to “chui nguoi khac” to order people (even they are no one) and no one has “the licence” (right) to even answer back or not to obey them. NNN’s comments are only for the one who sent that letter. Do you know exactly what the letter says? Neither do I. But just make a guess. Why NNN said “chu’ng toi khong buon phien lam, nhung cung cam thay co hoi chut tuc cuoi…”, “gay gat nhu mang chung toi…”. Why or what written in the letters makes “chu’ng to^i buon phien?”. NNN or ba Thuy Nga do have the right mind (if not PBN can’t be what it is today). Therefore, they will not feel “buon phien” if they receive positive or constructive comments.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 25 October 2004 @ 11:35 pm
  55. You like PBN or not, it’s your right. I haven’t agrreed with NNN and PBN in many situations but this time I totally support them. We are all human beings, no one has the right to “cha dap” any one.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 25 October 2004 @ 11:50 pm
  56. Oh Please…Mother Teresa Thao Tran…lucky I wasn’t there in their live show…otherwise, who knows! If I have the feeling like Donny fells right now about NNN’s comment. Maybe I’ll boo him off the stage…hahaha…

    Comment by Trung — 26 October 2004 @ 4:58 pm
  57. I don’t say you or Donny don’t have the right to show your feeling. I don’t say that feeling is right or worng. You have the right to say that NNN and PBN disrespect “khan gia” and condemn his comments according to your feeling. I also have the right to say that NNN does not disrespect “khan gia” and praise the comments according to my feeling. Donny and you give the reasons to get angry with his statements. I give the reason to be pleased with his statements. Do we all have to have the same point of views about that issue?

    Comment by Thao Tran — 26 October 2004 @ 9:50 pm
  58. And I’m no “Mother Teresa”. Again, since I believe I understand NNN statement, I don’t think “Ngu+o+`i la la`ng co’ lo^~i nhie^`u ho+n ngu+o+`i a(n cu+o+’p).

    Comment by Thao Tran — 26 October 2004 @ 10:05 pm
  59. It means that if one knows how to comment people, people will know how to take his/her comments.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 27 October 2004 @ 2:47 am
  60. You’re assuming too much on people’s feelings and you are lecturing too much on how people should treat one to another and what not! Give it a rest, would ya?

    However, I value your sincere thought about not “cha dap” on the entertainer(s). I completely understand and sympathize for some of people whom involve in the entertainment world, especially the lyricists, composers, singers, fine artists, art/graphic designers, any positions related to art literatures and performances. It’s such a tough job, I would say…be able to create, produce, and maintain the creativeness and the so-called “entertainment products”. Did I just say only some of people above? Yes, I did! Of course, there are good people and bad people. Ive seen, heard and experienced a lot of bad people in Vietnamese media and entertainment industry. For example, Id like to use one statement on your previous comment: I bought VAN SON, ASIA and PBN and if I felt that 50% of the DVD is OK. I would be happy! => Just 50% OK, not even good. So there is 50% not OK.you see there are a lot of things to discuss in that 50% not OK. Many of these productions are corrupt (let me put it that way). And you mentioned about Cu+o+p (steal)…Yeah! Thats right! Some of them are actually steal peoples money in the face that they dont even know. Freaking lip-synched in live shows, bunch of armatures singers, [explicative] bunch of filthy producers; steal others products, [explecitive] translated songs which misled the listeners the song origin; Nha.c ngoai quoc or Loi Viet. What the [explicative]! [explicative] recycling the songs too much, [explicative] shuffling the songs for dubbing many CD copies for their filthy [explicative] businesses , [explicative] bunch of the old corrupted Republic of Vietnam puppets, [explicative] the influences of Chinese, Korean, French, miming performances, [explicative] selling (robbing) up to $120 for their [explicative] lousy show ticket and $25 [explicative] low-valued quality DVDsI can go on for the whole [explicative] day.

    Last but not least, I do believe in the truefulness of an individual expression that he/she strongly believe in his/her ideology, which could convince or help to make a better change for societyThats what counts.

    Comment by Trung — 27 October 2004 @ 12:50 pm
  61. I totally agree with you on this:
    “the truefulness of an individual expression that he/she strongly believe in his/her ideology, which could convince or help to make a better change for society”. However, are you sure that all comments from individual are trufulness?

    Mr. Trung

    You misunderstand the terms 50% I used. I’ve just bought a new ASIA for $25 and I only 50% happy with the DVDs. It doesn’t mean that I was robbed and and the quality of the DVDs are poor. You said you bought cds and totally happy with them. It doesn’t mean that if I bought those cds, I would satisfy the cds. A song or a singer can be favored by one person but is not favored by another! I said couldn’t have the gut to listen some song from the beginning to the end, but other people may like them. So what can one do? Force people to follow my taste?

    You and Donny give the reasons to criticise NNN and PBN. I give the reasons to support them then you get angry!!! So people only have “the licence” to chui NNN and PBN and must not have “the licence” to defend them.

    You said I’d been lecturing too much? What about you? You don’t like PBN or ASIA or VANSON and don’t buy them, it’s fine, no one can force you. But don’t think people buy them are stupid: “Some of them are actually steal peoples money in the face that they dont even know”. They have good reasons to buy and to watch them.

    You mentioned on “the old corrupted Republic of Vietnam puppets, the influences of Chinese, Korean, French” in those Videos. Where are you now, VN, US? Are you sure that the songs or cds you bought are free from any influences?

    I agree with you in some points but not all. Yes, people said there are some ways to know whether or not your are Asians. One of these is you have to watch bad videos. Of course, if the songs are free from any influences they will be perfect. But to me, in terms of “entertainment” any songs which can make me relax are good.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 27 October 2004 @ 10:29 pm
  62. And I don’t see any thing wrong with Vietnam puppets. If I like it I watch it, if I don’t just pass fowards for the next songs and let people who like it enjoy it. As I said I don’t force any one to follow my taste. You said I lectured too much, but you are teaching people how to spend their money.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 27 October 2004 @ 10:38 pm
  63. You’re not jumpy, are you?

    Comment by Trung — 27 October 2004 @ 11:47 pm
  64. Of course not! I’m not angry either.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 12:05 am
  65. just don’t like the people who give themselves the right to “chui” nguoi khac.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 12:16 am
  66. That’s good!

    Comment by Trung — 28 October 2004 @ 12:16 am
  67. “chui” people: good, OK, right, good sense.

    “benh vuc” people: not OK, not good, crazy, “ca` cho+’n”, impossible.

    WOW.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 12:20 am
  68. I meant good if you’re not jumpy

    Comment by Trung — 28 October 2004 @ 12:22 am
  69. But I guess not…still a hot head!

    Comment by Trung — 28 October 2004 @ 12:25 am
  70. I know what you meant. You meant I’m “tu+?ng tu+?ng”, “tha^’t thu+o+`ng”, “khu`ng”.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 12:47 am
  71. But you “khu`ng” cu~ng chu+a to+’i phie^n I’m “khu`ng”.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 12:48 am
  72. Hot head is still OK: alive; cold head would be worse: dead.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 12:58 am
  73. But I don’t mind Mr. Trung, since I understand your point of views.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 6:12 am
  74. SoFck all the act of synching of singers in Paris by Night (Thui Nga), Asia Ente` Tai Mi`nh, Ti`nh (gia?), Van Se^n.

    Comment by Trung 10.11.2004 @ 9:03 pm

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 6:25 am
  75. This website are not for people who don’t know the techniques of “chu+?i the^`”. Since I cannot speak that “fine” language, bye!

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 7:09 am
  76. Wow! It’s gettin’ hot in herre. I guess there are folks out there like Thao feel the same way. With this kind of support, I am sure he’ll say more horible things than what he did on PBN 74. Oh well! What can I say? You give him the license to spit in your face.

    About 50% of the work is good, that is totally unacceptable. I expect 100% effort out of artists when they come out with an album. That’s way I only support artists who push themselves to bring us “real” music.

    Comment by Donny — 28 October 2004 @ 8:44 am
  77. Thao Tran O*i!

    You’re assuming again:

    “I know what you meant. You meant Im tu+?ng tu+?ng”, tha^t thu+o+`ng”, khu`ng”.”

    Hot head = No’ng -Da^`u (Be^.nh Ca?m trie^`n mie^n)… hahaha…

    Actually, what I see in you is a very passionate person, who concerns very much to other people; Especially to Nguyen Ngoc Ngan, Donny and me…hahaha…

    Seriously, I think you have a kind heart and a sincere concern to Vietnamese people. Although, (sigh!!!) You need to use your eyeglasses more often when you read something…Ok? Can you promise me that?

    You said “Bye” is not a “good bye” or bye bye (forever) right? Please stay!

    Let me sing to you “Quan Ho. Ba(‘c Ninh” nhe!

    “Nguo`i O*i!!! Nguo`i O*? Ddu*`ng Ve^`…” and besides, I need to treat your “Be^.nh Ca?m”. Hahahha…

    Please come back!!!

    Comment by Trung — 28 October 2004 @ 12:11 pm
  78. She gives him the licence to spit on the face of nasty people and she will say bravo.

    Comment by Minh Tam — 28 October 2004 @ 12:16 pm
  79. Hey dude! You’re making one of my valuable readers left. You should be punished for your action. Thao, what you want me to do with him? LOL!

    I enjoy reading your comments so let’s not get too serious. It’s not good for your health.

    Comment by Donny — 28 October 2004 @ 12:22 pm
  80. Hey man…I didn’t mean anything to her!!!

    Comment by Trung — 28 October 2004 @ 12:53 pm
  81. I would say to Minh Tam, as human beings don’t speak that language.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 12:55 pm
  82. Oh! welcome back my dear Thao Tran. I miss you very much?

    Comment by Trung — 28 October 2004 @ 12:59 pm
  83. I don’t dare.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 1:01 pm
  84. I just copy them.

    Comment by Minh Tam — 28 October 2004 @ 1:03 pm
  85. Could you please teach me how to deal with people who like to use bad language, Mr Trung.

    Comment by Minh Tam — 28 October 2004 @ 1:04 pm
  86. Wow! So much love floating in here :)

    Dung la, co danh nhau moi biet long nhau LOL!

    Comment by Donny — 28 October 2004 @ 1:05 pm
  87. I have to watch Asia 44. Bye!

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 1:06 pm
  88. No matter what…either we have different opinions or different point of views in some aspects of life…but the bottom line is we’re human beings…we all have feeling…we shouldn’t “cha dap” good people…BUT we have to “cha dap” and “bo? thu`ng ra’c” bad people…hahaha…

    Comment by Trung — 28 October 2004 @ 1:11 pm
  89. Minh Tam,

    People use bad language all the times; sometimes it could be mean, funny, or something else to boot up the credibility in their expression…So stay away from the one who use it for mean purposes. Stay away in any case if you’re under 18 year old. :)

    Comment by Trung — 28 October 2004 @ 1:20 pm
  90. Yeah! Stay away from Trung, too, if your’e under 18 LOL! Just kidding, bro!

    Comment by Donny — 28 October 2004 @ 1:24 pm
  91. Mr Trung
    You said that I made many assumptions and forget to wear my glasses. You and Donny also should wear them too unless you have excellent eye. You and Donny are also making assuptions about things.

    No matter what your points of views about using bad language, I don’t want to speak with people like that. When in VN, since my house was at Cho+. Ca^`u Muo^’i, I had heard enough
    and I can speak the language fluently. But I don’t want to use it and I will stay away from those who have the habit of using it, especially in public.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 8:33 pm
  92. Mr Donny

    If I’m not mistaken, your answer to these comments
    “Nguyen Ngoc Ngan and Nguyen Cao Ky Duyen DOES take da viewers comments seriouslyif you dun know shit then stop puttin things tat arent true.”

    was

    Trung, its all good. I can take the heat. LOL! Just hope that people would back up their statement intelligently instead of just talk shit.

    So, why don’t you just back up your point of view intelligently instead of using foul language. And if I’m not mistaken, you’re some kind of host of this Website.

    You condemn NNN, talking about how he disrespects the viewers. What about you, do you respect people who come and visit your website?

    Comment by Thao Tran — 28 October 2004 @ 8:43 pm
  93. Oh boy! Ma^’y nguo`i o*? Cho+. Ca^`u Muo^i giu*~ la(‘m!!! But not you…Thanks goodness…but anyway, since you mentioned about the profanity language, then I have to say that I never use any of them to you…Please go back to any posts of mine that I wrote to you…If you strongly preferred not, then I promise I never use any of them to you. But you can’t tell me what I can or can’t say to others, and of course, I won’t use it if I know that person under 18 years old. Okeydo!

    Comment by Trung — 28 October 2004 @ 9:37 pm
  94. “No matter whateither we have different opinions or different point of views in some aspects of lifebut the bottom line is were human beingswe all have feelingwe shouldnt cha dap good peopleBUT we have to cha dap and bo? thu`ng rac bad peoplehahaha”

    Could you please give me the definitions of “good people” and “bad people”. Please give references: on which standard, laws, religions, societies, authors, traditions…

    And could you please tell me if you are good or bad people.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 29 October 2004 @ 2:07 am
  95. Thao, you are correct, I am the one who writes all these posts and as you can see, I give me reasonings behind them in every post. Why a certain piece of music is good. How Asia or PBN fail.

    As for your concern, I do not disrespect anyone on this site unless they show me no respect. I have been disagreeing with you the whoe way through but am I cursing you out? No.

    As for Trung, he has a good manner as well. The comment he made was just a rant and it is not directly “cha dap” any reader on this site.

    Comment by Donny — 29 October 2004 @ 8:26 am
  96. OK, let put it this way. This is your response to some one who support NNN

    “To Me or whoever you are,
    That statement wasnt all that? Are you serious? What could be worse than that? You want NNN to spit in your face in order to make it worse.”

    “Wow! Its gettin hot in herre. I guess there are folks out there like Thao feel the same way. With this kind of support, I am sure hell say more horible things than what he did on PBN 74. Oh well! What can I say? You give him the license to spit in your face.

    About 50% of the work is good, that is totally unacceptable. I expect 100% effort out of artists when they come out with an album. Thats way I only support artists who push themselves to bring us real music.”

    Do you believe this is the way you respect readers? If so, I believe NNN knows how to respect his viewer than you!!!

    Anyone, who doesn’t think, believe the way you think you believe are stupid. What about the people who enjoy PBN keep buying and watching their show? Are they all stupid? Do they need more training from you on how to enjoy music, how to evaluate a show to be wiser?

    Comment by Thao Tran — 29 October 2004 @ 1:15 pm
  97. Damn!You’re so arrogant. Don’t put words in my mouth either. I don’t call anyone stupid. The statements above and everything I wrote on this site are simply my opinions and I don’t expect anyone to accept them. I don’t train anyone to enjoy music. I am not a critic either. I just write down what I like or dislike. Some agree with me, many do not but everyone has the freedom to express his/her opinions.

    This is my last comment on this topic. I have no further interests on discussing it.

    Comment by Donny — 29 October 2004 @ 1:33 pm
  98. I don’t expect further comments on this topic either. It’s done.

    Comment by Thao Tran — 29 October 2004 @ 1:49 pm
  99. Hey everybody…What about me? I guess I talk to myself here…hahaha…Dang it!

    Donny,

    “As for Trung, he has a good manner as well”

    ==> Thanks bro. And please feel free to let me know if I am kind…a little bit crazy or somethin’ ok?…hahaha…

    Thao Tran:

    Your “Be^.nh Ca?m” is really worsening..

    “Anyone, who doesnt think, believe the way you think you believe are stupid. What about the people who enjoy PBN keep buying and watching their show? Are they all stupid? Do they need more training from you on how to enjoy music, how to evaluate a show to be wiser?”

    You are wrongly assuming again…This is a “personal attack” directly to Donny. You really made “boo boo” this time. hu hu hu…

    Let me explain it in very simple way, so you can understand:

    Like I said above; I’m very satisfied with the performance of “The Fleetwood Mac band” 100%. And suppose you tell me that you’re satisfied only 50% of it. Now, that doesn’t mean I’m 50% less intelligent, because we have different taste of music. Right?

    Done!

    About the questions you ask me above:

    1. Could you please give me the definitions of good people and bad people”? Please give references: on which standard, laws, religions, societies, authors, traditions
    And could you please tell me if you are good or bad people.

    => No, I am not pleased to give you my definitions about “good people” right now if you promise to apologize to Donny for me…Cmon kiddo…you can do it…then I will continue to treat your “be^.nh ca?m” Ok? Is it a deal?

    Comment by Trung — 30 October 2004 @ 8:21 pm
  100. I have no coomment about NNN’s statement. I just want to make my OPINION: To me, PBN has been a huge disappointment. In the SONG CA DVD- I felt there was no musical talent that I can draw from their performances and too much emphasis on sex appeal. Then in HOA BUOM NGAY XUA- this was a very dry and boring show with little value or humor. I tried really hard to enjoy it but ended up waking up with a blue screen TV and a cramp on my back! =)

    Comment by Anonymous — 9 November 2004 @ 3:18 am
  101. Ouch!

    Comment by Trung — 18 November 2004 @ 9:43 pm
  102. chao paris by night con nhi la thuy nga la #1 va nhung ca si ca cung hay nhung ma con co mot cau hoi tai sao luc nao thuy nga dung co cho huong thuy voi manh quynh hat trung boi vi phi nhung voi manh quynh hat trung voi nhau moi hop.va lam on thuy nga bo nhieu hinh cua ca si thuy nga len website.bac ngan oi con nhi nhu vay bac ngan dung co trach con tai vi con hay noi thang voi nguoi ta lam nhung ma mai mot thuy nga 76 bac ngan co the ca hoac dong kich nhieu bac ngan con suc de ca.va luc ma ong tom len noi nhung cau noi co su that nhu vay kh?con nhi nhieu ong noi voi ba cua co ay lam ong tom bi quan bam minh het.con ten la kim con 11 tuoi va con co sao con noi vay.trung tam thuy nga con nhi trung tam nay la trung tam # 1 cuon ban nao ra con cung coi het.remember yyou’re always the best!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by kim nguyen — 12 December 2004 @ 6:52 pm
  103. omgoodness thuy nga dien khung roi!!!gosh! tai sau phi nhung dang hat ngon lanh voi manh quyhn ma day co ra de cho huong thuy hat vay??? tai huong thuy co qui chuong vang phai khong??? eihh tam bay qua!!!

    Comment by Tina — 25 December 2004 @ 1:10 am
  104. thuy nga vac chanh bo vo.
    ham moi quen cu.

    o, toi con mot dieu thac mac,
    het kep roi sau? con dem may ong da, het hoi, de len noi chuyen may tram tieng dong ho??? thiec lam toi nguu guc ca het cuon phiem luon!!!

    Comment by Ky — 25 December 2004 @ 1:35 am
  105. i really agree with Tina,
    she is sooo right,
    phi nhung sing with manh quyhn they look so kute! why did thuy nga put him with huong thuy??? i really detest yall for doing that…is it becuz huong thuy has a gold medal she won like when she was little for singing good? how do we know she can sing good? i mean phi nhung sing very good in cai luong, even tho she dont have gold medal…if phi nhung go enter a contest then she can surely win!

    Comment by Hong — 25 December 2004 @ 1:38 am
  106. Donny, I agree with you that anh NNN’s comment is inappropriate. Paris by Night production should not take the viewer’s comment personally for them to lower themselves with such a response. In life you can never please everyone, there is always at least one out there who will not like your work. Based on the response I wonder if Paris by Night received quite a few similar complaints to require such a response. I think we should give Paris by Night some slacks because look at where they are today from the first video taping of Paris by Night. They came a long way to entertain all of us. Although I don’t watch a lot of the Viet music videos however from what I’ve seen they make dramatic improvements every time I watch. I must give them some credit for the money they spent on wardrobe, stage setup, and entertainers to entertain us. Sure the cost of the video is quite high but this goes with the law of supply and demand. With the high production cost they’re dishing out to make the video, we should be considerate to give them some profit for the work. Nothing is free in this world so why should we expect more from them? I’m sure with all the video piracy going on now a days that it is cutting into their profit as is. You can even buy the pirated videos and movies on Ebay now a days. The irony is that Ebay is not doing anything to prevent the video piracy sale either. Any way my 2 cents…

    Comment by Luat — 29 December 2004 @ 11:27 am
  107. TN is suck w/o Don Ho. MC NNG is boring wiht every new TN. I am disappoint

    Comment by mai le — 6 February 2005 @ 9:45 pm
  108. Các bạn không nên phí thì giờ bàn cãi về Thúy Nga Paris .
    Kể từ lúc Nguyễn Ngọc Ngạn và Kỳ Duyên nghĩ là họ quá nổi tiếng trong cộng đồng Việt Nam
    Họ đã trở thành hai người điều khiển trương trình rất là tầm thường …

    Comment by Dzu~ng — 19 February 2005 @ 12:26 am
  109. To^i coi ra^’t nhie^`u pha^`n ca nha.c va` cu?a ra^’t nhie^`u trung ta^m va` to^i tha^’y Nguyen Ngoc Ngan va Nguyen Cao Ky Duyen la 2 MC ra^’t la` gio?i tu*` xu*a to*’i nay. Co’ the^? n’oi ho. la` the legend. They’re natural. To^i nghi~ ca’c ba.n ganh ti. va` ba^’t ddo^`ng y’ kie^’n vo*’i ho. trong 1 va`i shows ne^n mo*’i che^ ho. nhu* va^.y. Ddo.c so* va`i comments va` critics cua? qu’y vi.o*? tre^n to^i cu~ng tha^’y ra(`ng quy’ vi. cu~ng dda^u co’ bie^’t gi` nhie^`u ba(`ng NNN va` NCKD. To^i tha^’y ma^’y ngu*o*`i nho? mo.n. Coi Thuy Nga hay kho^ng la` quye^`n cu?a mo^~i ngu*o*`i. Va^n So*n video ddo^i lu’c cu~ng hay va` cu~ng nhie^`u lu’c LAME thi’ mo^`….n’oi chung video nao` cu~ng co’ hay co’ do*?, co’ ai ma` la`m vu*`a lo`ng he^’t ddu*o*.c mo.i ngu*o*`i dda^u. :)) y’ kie^’n nho? nho? cho vui tho^i.

    Comment by A Lady guest — 27 May 2005 @ 3:43 am
  110. oh…one more thing…. qu’y vi. ne^n ddi ho.c the^m tie^’ng Vie^.t ddi.. vie^’t ba`i ma` toa`n dda’nh va^`n sai kho^ng ha`….to^i ma` nhu* ma^’y ngu*o*`i ma(‘c co*? che^’t luo^n. khikhikhi

    Comment by A Lady guest — 27 May 2005 @ 3:45 am
  111. buy download mp3 music

    VisualGUI.com » …

    Trackback by Biehard Letjsul — 2 August 2005 @ 6:53 pm
  112. agree with Lady guest , i don’t think you guys should said anything about some that you don’t know , and beside , if you don’t like , don’t watch it , why waste your time writing all these post ?? mind ur own bussiness please !

    Comment by Khue — 3 August 2005 @ 1:49 am
  113. Tai sao phai phe binh qua vay. cac trung tam nao cung muon sastisfy there customers. it business. sometimes our request are so harsh, so pbn has to make a stand to express their opinion. Mr. nnn and Nckd are funny and nice person. I saw them in person and talk to them. So donny and trung please give them a break. for hoai nam you so disrespect yourself when you said 0.02.

    Comment by hai — 4 August 2005 @ 2:45 am
  114. hello..

    i thought PBN 74 was actually pretty good compared to their previous video i think number 70, also the three “nhac si” OMG i ad to admit that PBN 70 was extremely crappy…

    hahah nice review donny!! how ya going? i thought dis blogspot was only originally for 3 ppl cos i only saw three names for the first 80 comments or something =D.. i onli saw “thao tran”, “donny” and “trung”… ahaha wellz helo to all 3 of u!!! =D

    Comment by Hung — 13 August 2005 @ 10:17 pm
  115. Yeah, I think PBN and Nguyen Ngoc Ngan need to appolozied to the fans who supported and made them rich all these years.

    Comment by Vinh — 14 August 2005 @ 1:07 pm
  116. Yes it was a stupid comment but this show was not so bad. Appealing more to the older generation perhaps, personally I liked ‘Gio Ti Canh Ba’, ‘Huong Dong Gio Noi’ (starting to like the how do you say, ‘que’?) Y Lan did wonderfully as usual although the song didn’t show her potential, it was more glitzy that quality.

    Comment by Caroline — 30 November 2005 @ 8:58 pm
  117. Hmm, yes Gio Ti Canh Ba was great and pretty funny too. I also loved Minh Tuyets song “Lanh Tron Dem Mua”. She looked really nice in that song but maybe it wasn’t appropriate for the meaning of the song.

    Comment by Hungster — 10 December 2005 @ 11:03 pm
  118. uoc mo cua con la tro than ca si.. nhung khong biet bat dau nhu the nao??.. co ai giup cung con??

    Comment by vicky le — 20 December 2005 @ 3:22 pm
  119. I say stop buying and support to those lip-sync playback “shows” from America. It’s not music if it’s not live.

    Comment by jesus2099 — 15 February 2006 @ 11:27 am
  120. I think Thuy Nga is the best Vietnamese Video music. What I like is the quality of its video and 5.1 surround sound.
    I like Asia video music too, but its audio is a FAKE. It said 5.1 surround sound, but it just merely show the 5.1 signals on your amplifier but no output for the surround speakers.

    They are really misleading their consumers.

    Comment by hulinnig — 9 March 2006 @ 8:52 pm
  121. “No more ORIGINAL…” your guys just want find an excute to rob from people.

    Comment by Minh Huynh — 28 March 2006 @ 8:42 pm
  122. I agree with Minh Huynh. TN, ASIA and other entertainers spend lots of money and work hard to produce musical show DVDs. People who buy illegally copied DVDs not only cost the musical entertainers but also help
    “sang DVD la^.u” guys getting rich!

    Comment by Anonymous — 14 May 2006 @ 12:41 am
  123. I agree with Minh Huynh.We shouldn’t grap other people mistakes for our excuse using illegal products.

    Comment by Minh Khue — 7 May 2008 @ 8:26 pm

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