Tran Thu Ha’s Public Relations
Tran Thu Ha is a talented singer. Even though she appears to be snobby and seems to be conceited at times, I still have respect for her craftsmanship. Like I always say, the music and the personal voice are what matter to me the most; however, she needs to handle her business better. Her public-relations people at Ha Tran Music are a whole bunch of idiots. She already is under appreciated in the Vietnamese-American community, and her PR not only doesn’t help, but also makes her image looks worse.
When her first album in the US, Ha Tran 98-03, released, I contacted her official website for a review copy. I wrote a nice letter explaining how I felt that she is under valued, and I also directed them to some of my reviews I have written. To my surprise, I received a reply stating that the website is to promote Tran Thu Ha (No shit! I thought the website was put together to castigate her), but if I want to support her, buy her album, write it, send it to them, and they’ll post it up on their site. My jaw dropped when I read that shit. What kind of public relations is this? I did purchase the album, wrote a review for it, and send it to them. I guess they never posted my review on their site because it didn’t come out so positive. And no, I didn’t give an unfavorable review just because they didn’t send me the album. It was not as good as I have expected it.
Last Thursday, I came across two demos from her upcoming album posted on her site. I liked them and linked to them from my site for my readers to check out. The next day, the file was renamed (from radio.html to radio1.html), what a coincident? So when my visitors click on the link, they would go to a broken page, which makes me look bad. As if I was so careless that I sent my readers to a none-existing page. I thought the purpose of posting up demos on a website is to get some exposure. Like they always say in Vietnamese, “tha con tep bat con tom.” But I guess her PR folks are too dumb to even understand that simple concept. My voice may not be matter much, but I do have a handful of readers who are Tran Thu Ha’s possible target audience. Then again, she is too big to be bothered by an insignificant, personal site like this.
Truth be told, in addition of honing my unskilled writing, I want to be able to get free, advanced promotional CDs. My habit of buying music is overwhelming. I am not a professional critic, but free CDs are not too much to ask, considering the time I have invested into these reviews. I have to agree with many readers here that our Vietnamese entertainment businesses need to learn from the American, especially in marketing and public relations department. In my Book Recommendation category, ninety percent of computer-related books are from Peachpit Press. A couple days after I posted a short review of 37 Signals’ Defensive Design for the Web, one of Peachpit representatives invited me to join their review program because they could tell that my words could influence other designers based on my work. Every month they would send out a list of their newest releases, all I have to do is tell them which books I want to review. That way, I can get to read books that interest me. Although I don’t get paid, I do get free books, which could be as much as fifty bucks a pop, and write whatever I feel without having to follow any guidelines. So yes, Vietnamese public-relations people, especially Tran Thu Ha’s folks, still need catching up to do.
can’t disagree more!
However, to my little knowledge, most “Vietnamese public-relation people” is OneManBand, who is also owner, manager, speaker-of-the-house, etc…So, donny, chances are: they all knew the simple lesson “bo con tep bat con tom,” but they don’t want to, unless they smart enough to hire a sharp mind, business-oriented, sweet-and-sour-matter-of-facty, like YOU!
Let’s hope it’s not true in Tran Thu Ha’s case.
well, that’s how most Vietnamese people work.. and it probably that they pays some PR people to make the website, so your email could be go to the web designer who is probably doesn’t give a rats ass about anything that has to do with Tran Thu Ha [maybe he does, but one of my friend did a graphix job for My Tam, if you know who she is, and yah, he hates her...]
- It sound kewl… getting free stuff…i wanna do that 2… lol
oh and by the way i have a question on ur hip hop review http://www.visualgui.com/?p=776… So is it that you think rap would be good to listen to? Because i agree that rap is a powerful music, therefore, do you think that the offensive lyrics in rap might have effects on the actions of some teenagers who listen to it??[and what i'm saying is that mostly teenagers don't get over the lyric like you do].. you don’t have to expalne it if u dont want to, it’s jstu come bugging me.., make me wonders so is it good or bad.. i mean of course, not as a yes or no question, it’s how would you rate it if ur a parent?
Hi,
So di~ radio.html bi renamed lai thanh radio1.html la vi sau khi update file nhac thu 3 (O Cua Tron), toi muon tra’nh ti`nh tra.ng users load ba?n cache cua radio ma khong nghe duoc file nhac thu 3 nen da`nh phai rename radio thanh radio1.
Chang le viec rename internal files tren website cua HaTran cung phai hoi y kien cua ong anh? Trong khi do, tren website cua HaTran khong co cho nao ghi radio.html la permanent link de cho ong anh muon link thi link ma khong can hoi y kien cua nguoi khac. Ong anh co careless hay khong thi trong truo`ng hop nay la qua ro roi.
Ma toi cung khong ngo viec rename 1 file radio co suc anh huong de ong anh viet ca 1 bai blog le^ the^ nhu vay.
Va`o thoi diem phat hanh “Ha Tran 98-03″, official website cua HaTran luc do la http://www.hatranproductions.com chu khong phai http://www.hatranmusic.com , ong anh vui long ghi cho ro~ ra de tranh ngo^. nha^.n cho nguoi do.c blog cua ong anh.
Cam on.
P.s: Toi khong phai la nguoi dai dien cho HaTran hay PR gi gi do, nhung toi chinh la nguoi rename cai file radio do day, thay ong anh suy dien lung tung bay ba nen ngua mat qua, phai comment thoi. Song toi chung nay tuoi roi ma khong biet phai trai trang den, that tiec cho ong anh qua.
oh please keep calm, dear Donny !
toi nghi co le co gi thay doi ve ban than cac bai demos nen moi co su changing cai link nay tu website cua Ha.
nhung cung rat dong quan diem voi Donny ve cach thuc PR trong music business. Toi thuc su nghi rang Donny co the de nghi cac vietnamese music productions gui free CD cho ban de ban viet review ve cac san pham cua ho, vi thuc su cac bai reviews cua ban (du nhieu khi chung dung, nhieu khi sai va nang ve chu quan cua rieng ban) da rat co anh huong toi nhung readers cua VisualGui, va thuong la sau khi doc ho thuong di mua ngay dia goc, mot cach “quang cao” vo cung hieu qua cho cac products nay.
a, nhan day xin co mot cau hoi toi Donny, co the cho biet so nguoi vao xem trang nha Visualgui vao khoang bao nhieu moi ngay duoc khong ?
cheers!
See, exactly my point. Listen to how her “webmaster” or whoever it is from Ha Tran Music, a site that promotes Tran Thu Ha, handles her business, real fucking professional. My words may look/sound really “ngua mat,” but at least someone takes a notice. So it is up to you now to make Tran Thu Ha image looks better. But looking at the way you responded, TTH’s PR needs serious help since one of her web person doesn’t even know what PR is.
According to Google Analytics, Visualgui.com gets an average of 872 visitors a day.
I have to agree that even if íts just a mis understanding, the way Phong react was quite ‘catty ‘ and over the top
A calm email to Donny stating the facts would work much better, Ím sure Donny would’ve apologized for quickly to jump into conclusion but as it is now … Íd hate but agree with his views about Vietnamese entertainment need work on their PR
tninjia, you have brought up a really good point about hip-hop. The message is so strong and so real that it has an impact on the kids. There was a lot of instances that kid was under the influence of rappers. In the mid 90s, two kids shot the cops and argued that 2pac’s music gave them the motivation. The murder of 2pac and Biggie was a really wake up call for hip-hop community. Yet, rappers are still getting shot everyday. I really don’t know how to deal with kids when it comes to hip-hop, you have to be able to seperate between what’s art and what’s not. Listen for the aesthetic experience (the beat, the rhyme, the wordplay, the flow, the delivery and so on), but leave out the meaning of the message. Don’t worry that Eminem hates gay people; don’t care that most of the rappers are misogynist; and don’t shoot at the cops just because 2pac said so (eventhough I really want to sometimes when them pigs have nothing to do but sitting in the bush holding a speed rader in one hand and jerking off with the other).
Trong bai viet cua ong anh, hon 1/2 la nhung loi ket luan chu quan cua ong anh roi, neu khong muon noi la suy dien lung tung. Tu 1 chuyen rename cai radio ma ra den chuyen PR cua TTH thi ong anh cung bay bong that.
btw, da giai thich ky cang ve chuyen permanent link roi ma ong anh van chua hieu va chua biet phai xin loi ve toi vu khong nguoi khac thi dung la…
Want me to apologize? You must be out of your mind. I sell nothing on this site; therefore, I could careless about my public image. Do I need to remind you that this is a personal blog? On the other hand, you’re screwing with TTH’s image, but it seems like you don’t give a damn about her away.
Phong, if you really care about Hatran site or her music. Please stop your comments
Hahahaha, nhu vay nghia la ong anh da khanh dinh minh an noi bat chap dung sai chu gi.
Hahaha
ok, ok, ok, vay la qua du
Can nhac lai 1 lan nua: toi cung khong phai nguoi dai dien cho bat cu ai, HaTran hay webmaster,… toi chi khong muon vi viec toi rename 1 file ma anh huong toi danh du cua nguoi khac thoi.
Moi nguoi cung nen lay info tu ca 2 phia roi moi ket luan, chu dung nen den day de nghe noi nham tu 1 phia: mot nua su that mai mai khong phai la su that…
hahahhahaha
Phong, please stop your foolish comments. You sound like an idiot right now.
Phong
You’re not helping the situation at all!
I now agree with Donny more because of your reaction/comment.
I dont need to info from both sides. If my customers need informations or samples. I would make sure all my employees to satisfice their demand (It would be business suicide to laugh in their face)
“Can nhac lai 1 lan nua: toi cung khong phai nguoi dai dien cho bat cu ai, HaTran hay webmaster” but you have access to her website to change the file name. Unless you’re a hacker, you are connecting with Ha Tran music website. Duh!
Nhung buon cuoi nhat la tai sao bat cu hanh dong gi cua toi moi nguoi deu quy ra la HaTran hay manager cua HT phai chiu trach nhiem vay? nhu vay dau co fair cho HaTran
Phong, you’re making it way too easy for me, kiddo. Too late to disassociate yourself from HaTranMusic.com now. Taking the URL out of your name won’t do it either. Oh yeah, isn’t your email address is [email protected] from your earlier comments? Then again, I guess an admin has nothing to do with its website.
Where is Miyo at? You need to teach this kid some challenging skills before he could step up to me. :)
i just dont want to fill all the fields every time i post a new comment.
this is one huge misunderstanding.
donny, i think ur being irrational abt this. u were too quick to jump to judgement and that makes u seem shallow.
phong, ur a smart ass, like da viet saying of “xo la ba que”… if u want an apology, pls just be direct with donny in da first place. why must u turn this simple matter into an ugli fight?
donny i think its fairly rude of u to response like that, phong might be an older person than you are so dont go callin him a “kiddo”. and phong, ur comments are visible to us becos donny didnt delete them eventhough he CAN. so no more trash …its meant to be a happy space…no more dramas pls
“Where is Miyo at? You need to teach this kid some challenging skills before he could step up to me. :)”
donny, looks to me like every1 is ganging up on phong, ur even seeking out for help…wat a pity…
i speak my mind, tellin u exactly how i feel abt this situation. u know i love visualgui.com but this topic is pretty silly…retaliate is just too petty…
Me seeking out help? With what? I think everyone is up against him becuase his arguments are rediculious. I just wanted to throw in some comics. Get him some help, not me. I am capable of standing up for myself. I admit, I have gone overboard with the file naming thing, but the PR subject is as serious as cancer. I don’t throw that out to be silly. I speak my mind to, and I tell it how I feel. You know me damn well when I speak out.
“I speak my mind”
Lo^’i nghi~ vo*’ va^?n, suy dien “lun tun”, tu cho minh cai quyen de quy na.p toi loi cho nguoi khac da~ a(n sa^u va`o ma’u mu roi. Biet sao duoc. Cai nay goi la Y hoc bo tay do ma…
Khiep that, sang toi gio moi thay 1 nguoi biet be^nh vuc su that. Thanks mimi (That ra toi moi co 16 tuoi ah, chi thay tiec la co nhieu nguoi lon gia` dau roi ma con khong biet noi that, hay day la cach ung xu cua may nguoi noi tieng hi?)
A di da` Phat….
Hahahahaaa
Oh Lord, Tran Thu Ha hired a 16-year-old kid to handle her online presence. I have nothing more to say. Yeah Mimi, I am so rude for calling him a kiddo.
Don’t you guys ever have a feeling that Phong isn’t really an admin at TTH’s website and he’s just fucking with ya’ll? :)
“Anger and intolerance are the enemies of correct understanding.”
-Mohandas Gandhi
donny, da thing is we both didnt know he was 16 until now. da term “kiddo” is absolutely appropriate in this discussion.
phong, in case ur mistaken, i am NOT on ur side. wat i told u to do is stop all this bullshitin…and ur still stirrin up some more. its like…shut up already.
donny, if u read my comment on nguyen khang’s interview, i also suggested da vietnamese music industry to learn more from da westerners. pls try to explain da concept of PR to a vietnamse person…they will never get it…”advertising” is as much as they can comprehend. personally speakin, i would buy albums released by all my fave artist regardless how good/bad they are. i would enjoy da good album, disappointed with da bad album and hopeful for better ones to be release. i never buy a CD for just for its cover. however, for vietnamese singers in general, esp da ones in VN atm, their album covers are gettin OTT, and ridiculous… they come in all shapes and sizes eg:calendar/photo albums/dairy…etc…i think to them…that is PR and that is enough. no more effort need to be wasted. they still have lots to learn…
btw…is da link to her demos workin again?
haha DOnny, remember my comment on your Minh Tuyet’s review… this guy is like doing the exact thing i did… he’s just mad… can’t balme him.. he’s 16…- haha, i see your point about hip hop.. and yeah it’s great how they do the beat and rhythm…
… yeah,Phong, ur the admin of the website, and not a PR… i kindda figure that throgh out ur comments, because people who really care about the piblic face of a singer would not speak like you, which actually make me dislike TTh even more [well, i never really like her even though people says she's one of the 5 divas...]..
tninjia,
It’s ok if you don’t like Tran Thu Ha but this whole ridiculous discussion/fight/argument has nothing to do with her. I don’t know why you said you dislike her more because of this. Did you ever think she may not know anything about what her website designer do/say? You have to be fair when you make public comment before jumping to a conlusion.
BTW, she’s one of 4 Viet Divas: Thanh Lam, Hong Nhung, My Linh, and herself, not 5
Mimi, I think you misundertood. D was asking for me because I often oppose his view and so maybe I can be of reinforcement to Phong on this post.
Tran Thu Ha is such that a segment of the musical population is passionate about her, they think her sublime. These people appreciate her art for reasons only they know, some of them even recognize that the Vietnamese language is being enriched by her interpretations of the songs that she chooses to sing. To those who have an ear for the Vietnamese spoken language complete with its musical and tonal qualities, Tran Thu Ha is a magician of phonetic delivery, made more delightful by a mastery of emotional control. Diva or no diva, she is a fortune given to us. Tran Thu Ha a fortune, and a sublime one, is just an opinion from one who really appreciates her art. Those who don’t think her good, please ignore rather than insult her. If you could do that, we who like her work would not feel so offended. (We did not offend you in any way.)
tan,
“Diva or no diva, she is a fortune given to us. Those who don’t think her good, please ignore rather than insult her”
Good words. I couldn’t say any better.
On the same topic, here’s her interview about the new album. Personally I couldn’t wait especially now knowing that she will sing Mua Bay Thap Co written by Tran Tien. The song was already sang by Tung Duong and I love it but I have feeling Ha Tran’s version will also be great too.
http://www.vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Van-hoa/2006/06/3B9EA77F/
i like her voice, when she doesn’t too much of the oversinging. reminds me of thai hien, who i think is highly underrated- thai hien is fuckin awesome
Hi Mimi,
the demos are still available at Ha Tran’s website ( http://www.hatranmusic.com ) under the NEWS section. Your feedback is more than welcome in the Hacoholic Forum.
Hi Tan and Luat,
glad to see your appreciation about Ha’s work. I would love to see you (and everybody who is interested) in the Hacoholic Forum and hear more from you guys about Ha Tran.
Have a nice day!
P.S. Thank you Donny for creating a virtual space where we can meet a bunch of interesting people!:-)
Truth be told, the PR for most VN singers is quite bad. They have little understanding of how to use the internet to their advantage–which should be, for people in their position, one of their greatest tools for getting a more international audience. Most of their sites are made by volunteers and abandoned shortly after they go live (and very poorly designed for that matter). They have no understanding how third-party sites like this one could have an effect on their potential audience.
Because nearly all of their income derives from domestic performances (except for the rare few like My Tam and KaSim who have a lucrative income from advertisements), they may forget (or don’t care as much?) about the importance of album reviews overseas as a way of expanding their audience.
Traditionally I think VN album releases have been more of a milestone of personal achievement rather than a significan revenue source. They are a joke in VN because everyone buys the cheaper pirated copy sold on the shelf across the aisle. But perhaps KimLoiStudio is changing that?
wow i’m not the only tan here
Ban Donny than men,
Truoc het xin cam on nhung y kien cua ban. Tuy nhien, toi hi vong ban khong trut tuc gian vi chua hai long voi su co web master sang nhung nhan xet thieu cong bang ve toi nhu the.
Ve viec de exclusive demos cho HTMS, web master muon welcome cac ban visit HTMS. CHung toi cam on thien chi cua visualgui promote artist. Nhung doi khi su nhiet tinh qua co tac dung nguoc. Chang han truong hop “Toi Yeu Vietnam” cua Pham Quynh Anh, ai cung download duoc tu trang cua ban va Quynh Anh gap rac roi vi album chua release da “bi” pho bien ngoai ke hoach.
Mot lan nua, mong ban Donny co nhung y kien tich cuc va cong tam hon. Chung toi lam viec rat nhieu nhung doi khi khong the vua long tat ca cac “thuong de”.
BTW, you guys all welcome to check out demos “Communication 06″ at http://www.hatranmusic.com. For reference, please click on “News”.
Donny is a spoiled child who’s upset because he can’t get what he wants.
This is getting good!!!
Yup, it sure is ! :)
It is Donny’s private page and he makes no $ from it so he is free to do and speak his mind.
Great discussions. I agreed with everyone (no personal point of view huh). I’m curious why she changed the name from Tran Thu Ha to Ha Tran. Is it because she wants to be Americanized or just a change for something new. Any way, I feel it is a little bit odd. Don Ho is the exception.
I have the same thought as nicolenguyen but it makes sense because visualgui has some power :-) It is upset that someone under-estimate mr. D.
who let the dogs out!!!
yeah.. my bad.. haha, i think that’s what wrong with me, sometimes, i just dislike people beacause i didn’t like their PR.. that’s why i’ll probably never gonna be like you… it’s just harder for me to judge it fair…
Anywayz, isn’t Thu Phuong used to be one Diva, too.. and then the Vietnamese kicks her out cuz she sang in Thuy Nga?
Cung~ may la toi khong sign la [email protected], neu khong thi may anh giai chi gai o day chac bat Bill Gates phai thay doi PR qua
hahahaha
Phong, the more you talk the less respect I have for you, you little nut! Bill Gates indeed!
see … pthe thing is that eople like Bill Gates wouldn’t have PR like you, Phong.
Thu Phương chưa bao giờ được công nhận là ca sỹ có ảnh hưởng theo đánh giá của báo chí lẫn giới chuyên môn. CHuyện Thu PHuong bỏ xứ thiết nghĩ không có gì liên quan đến danh hiệu Diva cả. Đó cũng chỉ là danh hiệu, không có phản ánh bất cứ điều gì.
Phong – I have a feeling u can’t understand English very well. U sound like a misinformed fool babbling nonsense in VNmese like everyone here is against you which isn’t exactly the case. Should consider taking serious English lessons and might as well take Ha Tran with you, she seems to misunderstand that people are badmouthing about her too !!!
..mt, he writes in Vietnamese… so he’s probably not really speak English that good..it probably took him a while to actually read through Donny’s review.
MT: ong anh hay ba chi MT than men, lam on doc cho ky het tu dau toi cuoi, xong roi doc tu duoi nguoc len tren xem coi moi nguoi dang noi chuyen gi, van de gi, hieu het moi chuyen thi moi chen ca’i “mo? ngo.c” vao day, chu dung co chen ngang hong nhu vay nha, Biet thi noi, khong biet thi cung du`ng… suy dien lung tung nhu anh giai chu nha o day. Hahaha
Nguoi VN thi nen noi bang tieng Viet voi nhau. Chu du`ng vin va`o cai von Ang-le^ cua minh de la`m chuan muc cho moi chuan muc chu’.
“Phong, the more you talk the less respect I have for you”
That ra, o day dau co ai ton trong ai, ngay tu phut ban dau luu lueyn do cho toi bay gio, ngay tu chu nha cho toi khach deu nhu vay ma.
Hi Donny,
I like you already, stood up and say what is up.
I do have enough of this mediocre singer.
Don’t get me wrong here; Tran Thu Ha did have my attention with Nhat Thuc but then shit rolls down hill after that. Most people gave her way too much credit for Nhat Thuc, they had forgotten that there were Vi Thuy Linh, Ngoc Dai, Do Bao’s signatures are all over that CD.
I have a chance to go thru HaTranproductions.com and Hatranmusic.com. I could not agree more with you especially when I start to look at hatranproduction.com bullshit page. To my astonishment, a business type of webpage (Hatranproductions.com) is so dam corny, badly design and text contents written by a high school wannbe…and it is written in English for Vietnamese.
I don’t buy the American names she throws around in her production. Who the hell are these guys? I like to talk to them and see if they are really in the production of her…or IS THERE REALLY A PRODUCTION FOR REAL? What is she trying to do, scare us Vietnamese?
Donny, I am not surprise that she and her ‘people’ are giving you the cold shoulder, you see thing way too clearly.
tninjia: uh, em cũng phải điêu đứng lắm mới nhờ được người dịch được cái phần “gâu gâu” bằng tiếng Ăng-lê của quý vị ở đây. Thông cảm, cái vốn học vốn ít ỏi của em. Em được sinh ra ở 1 vùng quê xa xôi lắm, nó nghèo lắm, chớ hông được hoành tráng như trong cái “Bonjour VN” của anh giai ở đây.
Nhưng mà, tuy em học ít, cũng biết, em là người VN. Chớ hông được như các anh giai đây, đã rũ sạch bùn đất, bay lên cây cao làm phượng hoàng, hót bằng tiếng Ăng-lê, mà đã là bằng tiếng Ăng-lê rồi thì muốn hót gì thì hót, hót bậy hót bạ nghe ra giọng nó vẫn thanh, vẫn sang…. sảng.
Nói đi thì cũng phải nói lại, phải có văn hóa McDonald, ăn hamburgers mới cho giọng hót thanh tao đến vậy, chớ còn em, em ở quê, ăn dưa muối mắm cà, hót mấy cũng chẳng ra chim phượng, chim hoàng…
Mà kể cũng lạ, có lẽ quý vị hót hơi vang, hơi xa, nên đã ra khỏi cái phần chủ đề “radio.html” của em. Từ cái radio mà em đã phải kiểm điểm lại mình rất rất nhiều, từ việc học hót cho tới việc nghe hót.
Thôi thì để rút kinh nghiệm không làm ảnh hưởng đến bản thân cũng như những người khác, nếu sau này em có rename file nào, cũng cũng sẽ làm 1 bản tường trình, đem lên ủy ban xã đóng dấu công chứng, rồi quay lại trình với anh giai chủ nhà đâu xét duyệt, kẻo không anh giai lại đem em ra mà… dạy dỗ người xung quanh em thì….
“see … pthe thing is that eople like Bill Gates wouldn’t have PR like you, Phong”
Em biết, người như em thì không thể làm PR được, nhưng từ đầu tới cuối, có chỗ nào em có nói em làm PR bao giờ chưa nhỉ?? admin/webmaster/PR/… là nhiều người khác nhau, nên nhớ như vậy. Nên làm ơn, anh giai chị gái, ĐỌC CHO KỸ rồi mới chen mỏ ngọc vào. Không hiểu thì đừng “hót” bậy ở đây.
btw, nhắc tới chuyện PR, em thì em không đồng ý với chị HaTran tí nào, Phạm Quỳnh Anh có được ngày này chắc cũng phải nhờ bàn tay “nghĩa hiệp” của anh giai chủ nhà, xét tình, xét lý thì cái chức PR đó chắc không xứng đáng hơn là anh giai. Không còn ai pro hơn
A Di Đà Phật…
Haha… You’re clearly trying too hard to be a smart-ass with your Vietnamese vocabulary to make up for your poor English there. We’re mostly Vietnamese North Americans here, need we stoop down to your low level of Western education to be called ‘chua^n? mu*c.’ Vietnamese like you are ?
Wow, I’m learning both English and Vietnamese in this blog, thanks Donny.
Chu choa, em -du*o*.c ho.c ca? Anh Va(n va` Vie^.t Va(n trong ma.ng lu*o*’i na`y, ca?m o*n Donny.
Donny, I’m not going to say that I’m agreeing or disagreeing with you but I’m really impress with you and your blog, all type of people go into this blog and there’s a wide range of opinions. You are such a controversial person now. You’re your own PR … hehe .. I go in here all the time too, but I’m the quiet one, so I don’t often post any comment. Trying to be neutral and all, I guess
Phong-
There is no uy Ban Xa in here. If you want to show off your ” sa’o ro^?ng” Vietnamese then please go back to VN.
“sáo rỗng” chớ hông phải “sáo rổng” rỗng, thưa ông anh/bà chị
Càng càng nực cười, người VN mà cứ tự hào là mình có văn hóa Mỹ là sao hả anh giai MT? Cái gốc VN làm anh giai xấu hổ lắm sao? Rau muống có muốn lên bờ thì cũng chỉ là rau muống… mắc cạn
“We’re mostly Vietnamese North Americans here, need we stoop down to your low level of Western education to be called ‘chua^n? mu*c.’ Vietnamese like you are ?”
Chẳng hiểu sao nghe xong câu nói này của anh giai mà tim em cứ nhói lên từng hồi. Sao em thấy xót xa quá, xót xa cho mình thì không đáng nói ở đây, đằng này em xót cho cả dân mình
Anh giai nói hơi quá, em nào dám đại diện cho cả dân tộc để ông anh chà đạp như vậy, nhưng ít ra, em cũng không quay phắt cái lưng lại với dân của mình như anh giai đây.
Mà sao từ cái vụ radio.html mà ra nhiều chuyện thế nhỉ? một lời xin lỗi xem ra quá khó chăng? phen này em không khéo em sẽ… nổi tiếng mất, tất cả là nhờ ơn nói bậy của anh giai chủ nhà, đội ơn anh giai, ơn giời ơn bể này chắc cả đời em mang….
thưa pác Phong, em cũng chẳng có cố gắng làm chảnh làm chọi, nhưng mờ pác cũng hỉu, tụi nỳ sống bên Mỹ…. mà đa số lớn lên bên này. Nên đương nhiên phải nói tiếng Mỹ… pác dzô đây pác sổ 1 tráng tiếng Việt rồi bảo là mọi người như thế naà thế nọ. Pác bảo là pác chả phải admin dzậy email của pác là admin@trathu…..whatever.com… thôi thì tui cũng pó tay. Mà tôi đã pảo pác là PR pao dzờ chưa, tui chỉ nói Bill Gates se kô có PR dzống pác…. mà hỏi pác có bít PR là dzì kô ??
Còn nữa, Donny đã nói như thể là coincident, pác còn mún dzì nữa.. pác mún đổi link là quy6èn của pác, dzới lại cái naà là personal blog của Donny, nên he mún n1oi dzì thì nói, he cũng đâu iu cầu pác phải làm bản tường trinh thay link… he really couldn’t careless…
còn dzụ Phạm Quỳnh Anh, hường nhạc trẻ, hát hợp dzới teen… and that’w what the company is aiming for… tuy PQA kô có giọng bắng TTH, nhưng mà xét về mặc thị trươờn thì có lẽ PQA CD bán chạy hơn rất nhìu…
Kêế thúc, Donny đâu pảo pác dzô giải thix, pác thix thì dzô thui, nói đã ko ai đồng tình dzới mình thì đi nói xieêg nói xỏ ngưuòi khác…!!!! no offense but dude, đúng là cháu cụ Hồ… haha [no offense guy, i meant the communist...just a jokes...]
mà nè em giai TXN, anh có lời khen cho em là em đã master được cả Việt văn và “Mỹ văn”, tuổi trẻ như vậy là tài cao rồi, nhưng có 1 thứ em giai cũng cần phải work on, đó là lòng tự hào dân tộc, lần sau có viết 2 thứ tiếng cùng 1 lúc thì em giai nhớ mang tiếng Việt lên trước nha.
Lúc rảnh, có chút tiền thì mua cái vé máy bay, bay qua Nhật, tới phi trường xem coi người Nhật họ xử lý 2 thứ tiếng như thế nào, trật tự ra sao,…
Người ta vẫn để tiếng Nhật lên những thứ tiếng khác, để chi vậy? chẳng biết nữa, tự em tìm câu trả lời đi nha.
Của mình có mà không biết tự hào, lại đi tự hào dùm cho người ta thì kể cũng kỳ thật…
Thôi, em nói nhiều mà không lọt tai trâu cũng vậy, kẻo người ta lại nói em là đồ vô văn hóa Mỹ (nghĩa là không có văn hóa kiểu Mỹ đó)
hahahaha
Cau Phong, bai ke tiep, cau cuoi cung thi cau them mot cau nua: “A MEN”, hoac la mot cau cua DAO PHAI khac nhu cua HOI GIAO chang han. Chu “A DI DA PHAT” thi toi chang biet cau co muc dich gi, hoac dang CHE DIEU ai?
Toi thiet nghi bai nay viet de cho T.T.H se duoc hieu ro de co the lam tot hon. Neu khong..dau moi la cau noi “CHAN THANH”. Toi doc bai cua Donny. That su doi voi DOC GIA thi la mot bai BINH LUAN rat la hay. Nhung di nhien, Cau va T.T.H co the bi “XOC” vi loi THAT. Neu chi mot bai binh luan the nay, ma cau hoac la T.T.H phai viet di viet lai, thi chac rang CAU PHONG nay phai muon MOT DOI NGU de tra loi thoi.
Toi bao dam rang , sau vu nay CAU se lam tot hon du la Donny hoac nhung nguoi trong forum dung hoac khong dung.
Toi phai di tim mot dia CD cua T.T.H nghe sao moi duoc, vi that su toi chua biet co ca si nay la ai.
“Cau va T.T.H co the bi “XOC” vi loi THAT”
lại như vậy nữa rồi bác Hai, thật ra bác có biết con đang “đòi” lại cái gì hông vậy?
Hổng ấy, bác đưa email cho con để 2 bác cháu mình đàm đạo lại vấn đề nhức nhối này mới được. Chớ để lâu ngày, “người ấy” của cháu lại vờ quên…
A Men (theo như request của bác Hai)
Mà quên nữa bác Hai, nhắc bác chút xíu: con là con mà TTH là TTH, cứ gộp 2 người lại mà nói như vậy hoài, lỡ con nổi tiếng thì sao
hahaha
A Men
Donny must be tickle to death and realize that Tran Thu Ha actually check this website out and react to your comments.
Either way, thanks Donny and I hope Tran Thu Ha or Ha Tran (American Version whatever) realize that now I won’t buy the blank cd which I may use to copy her new cd.
:D FYI, we don’t need to apologize for not being Vietnamese born in Vietnam, let alone not being ‘ngu*o*i` Vie^t. vo^ va(n hoa’ Ba(c’ My~ la^n~ va(n hoa’ Vie^t. Nam’ like u. I don’t want to speak for everyone else here at Visualgui but I am proudly North American. If u want to poke fun and take advantage of the fact that u are living in the Communist Vietnam where you speak the ‘real’ Vietnamese and absorb the ‘real’ Vietnamese culture while we’re not then excuse YOU for being severely mistaken: I AM technically a North American and I AM proud of my Western heritage. “Go^c’” what? “Rau muo^ng’” what, u hallucinating litte punk? Doesn’t it sting to know that no matter how hard u try, u’ve no chance of living in our land of freedom and so u have to make the best out of ur current pathetic situation and attack US for not being ‘chua^n? mu*c. Vietnamese’? The fox tries many times to pluck the grapes that dangle invitingly over his head but he cannot reach them so he slinks away in disgust and says “Those grapes are probably sour anyway”, doesn’t he? :D Just so ur feeble little mind can expand a bit more, that, learning the Vietnamese language and heritage is a matter of CHOICE for many of us, not some cultural deficiency that u’re trying desperately to assault us with there. But then up to this point, it shows that either Ha` Tra^n` [oh dear, where's the soul of Vietnam in that name?] has made a grave mistake in choosing some wicked ‘ca^u. Ba(c’ ky` nho? nho?’ for an administrator like Donny had pointed out or that u’re not an admin to begin with. Either way, learn more English than just the mere ‘work on’ u’re trying to squeeze through ur ma(m’-hole there. English illiteracy cannot be masked with long` “tu*. hao` da^n to^c.” up to this point, hypocrite.
Phong is getting more and more ridiculous with his Vietnamese pride
Be able to speak perfect Vietnamese just because you’ve lived there your whole life doesn’t make you more Vietnamese and be able to speak good English because you’ve been oversea for 10 years doesn’t make you any less Vietnamese
Anyway, you’re only 16, still way to go mate
Hu hu hu,
em đã làm gì mà các anh giai đây đều đổ tội lên đầu HT vậy? ai làm người đó chịu chứ :D
“realize that now I won’t buy the blank cd which I may use to copy her new cd.”
Huhuhu, vậy là từ nay về sau, HT sẽ được mất đi 1 fan chuyên copy CD lậu “trung thành” rồi sao?
huhuhu
-Du/ng la` con cha’u bac’ Ho^`, a(n noi’ chuye^.n kha’ ma^t’ dai.
Quote em Phong :”đó là lòng tự hào dân tộc, lần sau có viết 2 thứ tiếng cùng 1 lúc thì em giai nhớ mang tiếng Việt lên trước nha.”
Jesus, this kid need to grow up fast, then he’ll know what real pride is
NT, Phong is looking up the dictionary now, trying to read comment. Give him a couple of hours to take in!
Ha Tran, how much did you pay this little chuwawa to bark for you?
hahaha
‘ca^u. Ba(c’ ky` nho? nho?’
trong đây có ít nhất 4 người biết tôi có phải Bắc Kỳ, Nam Kỳ hay “Huê Kỳ”, chắc 4 ông kia đọc được, sẽ cười lộn ruột quá, Bắc kỳ, hahahaha
Em chưa đến “Hà Lội”, em chưa thăm phố Cổ, em cũng chửa ra Huế, anh giai chươi…
“Doesn’t it sting to know that no matter how hard u try, u’ve no chance of living in our land of freedom.. blah blah blah…”
Sao anh giai biết là em chưa đến “Bắc Mễ” vậy? (hông phải Bắc Kỳ nha) tin đồn ở đâu ra thế này… khổ thân tôi, tấm thân bé bổng, đã mang nhiều tật nguyền, lại mang thêm nhiều tin đồn,…. Dù ít dù nhiều em cũng “nếm” được chút freedom của “Bắc Mễ”, nhưng em vẫn thích tiếng Việt hơn, ông bà ở VN nói: ta về ta tắm ao ta, dù trong dù đục ao nhà vẫn là… cái ao. Em đâu biết cái sự dùng tiếng Việt của em nó gây ra nhiều phiền phức đến anh giai như thế này đâu
hahaha
Em chưa biết “Hà Lội”, em chưa xem Phố Cổ, em cũng chửa 1 lần ra them xứ Huế….
thứ văn hóa gì mà ví von người khác là chiwawa thees này? Freedom “Bắc Mễ”?
Em đã cố gắng vô cùng rất ư là lịch sự để “đàm đạo” phải trái, vậy mà đối lại, em nhận được gì thế này
huhuhu hix hix ha ha
“-Du/ng la` con cha’u bac’ Ho^`, a(n noi’ chuye^.n kha’ ma^t’ dai. ”
bắt đầu ngã sang màu sắc chính trị rồi đây…
Từ 1 file radio bé bé của em, anh giai chủ nhà đã “phóng tác” ra thành vấn đề của PR, của HT rồi thành vấn đề nhức nhối của nền công nghiệp âm nhạc VN, văn hóa học, ngôn ngữ học, địa lý học, đạo đức học, súc vật học (chiwawa hahaa)
rồi bây giờ lại đến chính trị học.
Chà, cứ cái đà này thì nền hòa bình thế giới sẽ bị em làm ảnh hưởng mất thôi
Thôi, cho em xin….
Cang doc thi cang vui….nhu xem phim tap khong biet bao gio moi ket thuc.
That la HAU SANH KHA QUI, van chuong Luu Loat. Chi co dieu, cau ta lam toi lien tuong den khi di VN Airline. Nhung co CHIEU DAI VIEN rat la DEP, rat la CO KIEN THUC…the chi co mot dieu ma toi nghi nhung chieu dai vien nay dieu chac khong duoc hoc mot van de. Cau Phong cau co biet do la gi khong: DO LA HOC “PHEP LE DO”.
Neu cau that su la 16, thi hay doc nhung y kien o day ma lam CAM NANG cho Cau de may ra CAU LEN CAO khong bi VAP TE.
Neu cau thay rang cau khong lien quang gi toi T.T.H thi cang khong nen RAM CHUYEN nua. Bai viet kia xem nhu la sai, XIN LOI voi cau di.
Con neu khong..cau muon duoc gi nua, hoi cu cau 16?
Phong,
You write Vietnamese in a very “gia mom” kind of way.
I think you should stop now.
Nah.. I don’t think he’s 16, more like 66… and … oops.. it’s 06/06/06 today, day of the (nutty) demon!
Anybody seeing the movie OMEN?
Hi, Thu Hoai, my soul patrol mate! Good day!
I may be very wrong here but “Phong” must be at least 50 years old in order to write that kind of Vietnamese.
Hey to you too Nga !!
Any good music lately?
Judging by the growing post numbers in a short period of time, I think we are giving too much publicity to TTH. She may be a savvy businesswoman after all since no such thing as bad publicity.
Dude, i wanna go see the Omen.. it looks so kewl…
Anywayz… just don’t argue with phong anymore… Cháu cụ Hồ mà… ai nói cho lại !?!?!?
the more I read comments on this post, the more irritate I get. It starts to get way way off topic. No wonder Donny does not say anything. If I were him, I wouldn’t want neither. This is a waste of time. It doesn’t look like a healthy and useful discussion anymore. Let it go people.
Bác n ơi, bác n ah,
con không hiểu sao bác lại nói là con không lễ độ nữa, người ta nói: Chim khôn hót tiếng rảnh rang / Người khôn ăn nói dịu dàng dễ nghe.
Bác thấy bác post 1 bài ăn nói đàng hoàng là con trả lời với thái độ khác liền hông, con con bác bác ngọt sớt vậy mà bác bảo con không lễ độ…
Đi với bụt thì mặc áo cà sa / Đi với ma thì mặc áo giấy, bản thân họ không show chút respect nào, thì sao con lại phải nặng lòng để lễ độ với họ chớ, hông fair cho con chút nào, phải không bác?
Con nói chỗ này người ta hay suy diễn lung tung là không sai mà, con vậy mà nói con over 50 thì quả là … đề cao con quá. Gửi bác tấm hình coi coi con có phải over 50 hông nghen:
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6973/da843jp.jpg
“the more I read comments on this post, the more irritate I get. It starts to get way way off topic. No wonder Donny does not say anything. If I were him, I wouldn’t want neither. This is a waste of time. It doesn’t look like a healthy and useful discussion anymore. Let it go people.”
Vậy mà anh giai đây vẫn phải nặng lòng lên tiếng mấy lần đấy
Còn anh giai Donny, anh vẫn còn nợ em đấy nhé anh giai
“Anywayz… just don’t argue with phong anymore… Cháu cụ Hồ mà… ai nói cho lại !?!?!?”
Sai rồi chị ấy ơi:
1/. em chẳng phải cháu ai, em là con của má em
2/. thật ra có nhiều người trong đây, hông phải cháu của ai mà vẫn đanh đá quá cỡ đó chớ
nên chị cũng vậy, đừng suy diễn “lun tun”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcFliG4GhSg&search=minh%20tuyet
Let’s change the subject.
Let’s enjoy a clip of the famous Thuy Nga singer named Minh Tuyet “da khong yeu thi thoi” . Please note that she looks different because this is without the caked on make up ! ! :) enjoy it folks
“This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the sender’s friend request.”
Thu Hoai, can’t see it. ;)
I can’t see it neither.
Quen nua, khong biet trong visualgui nay co bao nhieu soccer fan vay ca\? Co ai coi World Cup khong ha? 3 hom nua bat dau roi :)
Yes Luat, I’m an Arsenal fan, you lucky Barcelona :). England Rule.
Nik ??? From Vietshine ???!!!!
tpn,
damn, it seems like we are on the opposite side now :) Arsenal – Barcelona, Brazil – England :)
Brazil is gonna win baby. I can foresee it hehe
Luat – Brazil may have the look of a winner but England will peel that off in no time. :D
Luat, ROOOOOOOOOONEY will kicks some A… hehehe, wait and see :)
Sorry Donny, no more soccer in your Blog
Looks like another war has started, but this is good sport so go right ahead. Damn! I wish I have cable.
@MT: ouch :) on the contrary, I believe the Fab Four (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Kaka) will kick some bloody English asses hehehe
@tpn: dude, Rooney’s fate is still unknown. He’s a good player but I really don’t think he will be ready for the matches with his injures. Even if he forces it, he will not have 100% fit for the game.
Yeah Donny. I believe it’s 2006 now… go get cable or satellite dude :) You should not miss the World Cup. It ONLY happens every 4 years.
Haha… Kick away, that’s what soccer is all about, mate! But keep the focus on the ball though, not our English, tea-sipping butts. :D
Oh sorry everyone. Please go to http://www.youtube.com and type in the word “da khong yeu thi thoi” . It’s the third video in black and white. She moves her ass just like a pro.
hahaha.. I have to learn that move when I perform this weekend. ..:)
Your lucky Brasil is on an easy path! Out of the Fab 4, only Ronnie and Kaka still can show their consistency. Hopefully they can get through the Aussie with all their ankles intact!
Go Holland!
Luat said what! Rooney already back for first day England trainning. Everybody fuming with his SCISSOR-KICK…hehhehe. And Big thanks to Donny for let we use your turf
@htc: not so easy path as you said bud. Brazil has to face Croatia which always has been a hidden surprise, Australia is now under Gus Hiddink, a genius who brought Korea to semi-final in 2002. Not to forget Japan, not as strong as Aussie and Croatia but its coach is Zico, a former Brazilian star. He must know all the tricks and secrets of his former team. Interestingly you brought up Holland. They are strong this year but with recent injuries I am not so sure.
@tpn: yeah he’s back at training but still need final scan before they can decide whether he will play or not
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060606/1/75ab.html
oh yeah, thanks Donny for lending your turf for this offside topic :)
I’m glad we finally got away from the childish, nasty comment fights earlier.
I don’t have cable, can someone tell me is Italian playing too?
TXN: yes the Italian is in:
12-Jun-06 #09 Italy Vs Ghana @ Cologne
7-Jun-06 #25 Italy Vs USA @ Kaiserslautern
luat,
It’s still way better than having to face Argentina, Ivory Coast and Serbia & Montenegro! Serbia & Montenegro was qualified as head of its qualification group that includes the Spaniard. Argentina even beat Brazil in qualification round. Ivory Coast with Drogba (Chelsea), Toure and Emmanuel Eboue (Arsenal) is not, in any way, a doorstop!
By beating Mexico with their reseve, Holland shows the depth of their player pool.
TXN,
You can check results and live commentary at http://www.soccernet.com
Donny,
If you don’t have cable, try turn to the Mexican channel. I think they always show all the big team games. Sometimes the English channels don’t have good commentator for soccer games, especially when there’s a goal. I used to switch to the Mexican channel whenever there’s a goal win, just to hear that commentator shout the long “Goalllllllllll”….hihihi…
htc,
If your fav is Holland, I agree it’s a difficult group. However, despite how strong Ivory Coast and S&M are, I still believe Argentina and Holland will move in the next round.
TXN,
For the 1st time, official WC website http://www.fifaworldcup.com will show highlighted video clips for FREE about 1hr after each match. If you can’t see it on TV, at least you can check that out.
For everyone who don’t have cable, some games will also be played on ABC broadcast which you just need an antenna to get it.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/worldcup/fixtures?&lpos=wcnav&lid=gn_sn_WC+fixtures&cc=5901
luat,
Thanks for the vote of confident!:) I sure hope so! If thing goes well, Holland and Brasil won’t face each other at least till the semifinal. It would be very interesting game!
Phong Lan,
I don’t think donny can fish spanish channel from the air in NY. You are lucky to live in LA. BTW, how can you plan to take maternity leave at the right time like this anyway?!;)
would any of this affect your decision of buying/supporting Ha’s musics?
Phong,
Lần sau, tốt nhất là em không nên vô những cái web site có nhiều người Việt Nam Cộng Hòa ở Mỹ. Người ta không có thích những người ở Việt Nam đâu.
Phong Lan,
Thanks for pointing me to dactrung. I really enjoy its poem section.
“Lần sau, tốt nhất là em không nên vô những cái web site có nhiều người Việt Nam Cộng Hòa ở Mỹ. Người ta không có thích những người ở Việt Nam đâu.”
This is the most ridiculous statement I ever heard.
ryoko: YES. Big time.
Gia ddi`nh cu?a Vio tru+o+’c gio+` ra^’t support TTH, ke^? tu+` ngay` she wa My~ ha’t “Mua` Thu cho Em” cu?a ho^.i VNHELP(Oct, 2002) to+’i gio+` shows na`o co’ TTH tui. nay` (khoa?ng 6-10 ngu+o+`i) dde^`u ddi coi u?ng ho^. her ba(`ng ca’ch mua ve’ ha.ng nha^’t va` mua CDs, DVDs she ba’n ta.i cho^?… va` luo^n ti`m ca’ch khen ngo+.i dde^? u?ng ho^. tinh tha^`n her…
Nhu+ng ma`… qua ca’i blog na`y, tha^’y she dde^? nha^n vie^n – 16 tuo^?i dda^`u – ra no’i chuye^.n 1 ca’ch ho^’ng ha’ch, ho^?n lao’ nhu+ va^.y va` ngay chi’nh ca? herself, 0 ho.c dd++.c nhu+~ng y’ kie^’n tu+` reviews dde^? to^? chu+’c la.i he^. tho^’ng la`m vie^.c, hay at least coi la.i nha^n vie^n mi`nh la`m a(n nhu+ the^’ na`o dde^? ru’t kinh nghie^.m cho la^`n sau (such as thay vi` ddo^?i te^n file, thi` re-direct to+’i trang mo+’i ne^’u co’ ai link to+’i trang cu~…), not only that she co`n go.i her fans la` “thuong de” – thu+o+.ng dde^’ nu+~a, nhu+ the^’ la` un-professional…
That’s why after my family members and my friends read the argument, they all said “That’s it, no more TTH. Period”.
So long, bye bye TTH for good.
ABC going to broadcast it live?
Ducster – Ignore filth, bro Just another one of those.
“Lần sau, tốt nhất là em không nên vô những cái web site có nhiều người Việt Nam Cộng Hòa ở Mỹ. Người ta không có thích những người ở Việt Nam đâu.”
No’i chuye^.n sao ma` kho’ nghe qua’ tro*`i. TXN -da^u pha?i la` ngu*o*`i Vie^.t Nam Co^.ng Ho`a gi` -da^u, ma` TXN va^~n va`o -da^y va^.y. Du` ngu*o*`i ta co’ kho^ng thi’ch hay ba^’t -do^`ng vo*’i mi`nh, mi`nh va^~n ne^n ti`m hie^~u nhie^`u ve^` the^’ gio*’i xung quanh mi`nh. Website na`y TXN nghi~ la` ve^` kie^’n thu*’c va(n hoa’ chung chung, cha(~ng pha?i ve^` chi’nh tri. gi` he^’t. Co’ nhu*~ng lu’c TXN muo^’n bie^’t ve^` tin tu*’c o*? Vie^.t Nam cu~ng va`o nhu*~ng trang web cu~a Vie^.t Nam va^.y.
Ngu+o+i` Vie^.t khie^m to^’n co’ ddo.c he^’t ddo^’i thoa.i tu+` dda^`u to+’i cuo^’i kho^ng? Co’ tha^’y ca’ch tra? lo+`i, ca’ch du`ng tu+` cu?a Phong 0? DDo’ 0 fa?i la` ca’ch xu+? su+. ddu’ng nghia~ “professional business”. Tu+. him chuo^’t la^’y vao` mi`nh su+. xa ca’ch cu?a ngu+o+`i ddo.c tho^i…
There are some arguments you can’t win, some questions you can’t answer, and some puzzles you can’t solve. To understand and accept as much is to be liberated. In this case I’m not liberated. I’m trapped in dark ignorance with some of the reader’s put downs, nastiness and prejudices. When we subscribe to such childlike notions, we sacrifice to precious objectivity. Wake up to yourselves. :)
vivo…that’s deep
but somethings aren’t worth going deep into…
sometimes you just gotta lalala, hmmmmm, … ahhhhh.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLL!
Luat, thx for the link to the schedule of the World Cup soccer game time.
htc,
You’re welcomed. Oh no, I’ll be back to work by next week, so I probably have to record the games and watch them at a later time. It will be interesting to see Netherlands vs. Argentina (I like both of these teams too and I think both of them will make it into the Quarterfinal)and then perhaps Italy vs. Brazil (although got to support US team, but I think Italy will prevent US to proceed any further round). I don’t like team Germany much (they play defense most of the time, so kind of boring watching them), so I hope England wins over Germany if they ever meet. There maybe an interesting match Italy vs. France in the Quarterfinals, I’d like to see this, let see if Italy can get revenge for the loss in Paris ’98 (I was in Europe that month & every Italian men I met were so pissed off at the French that they cheered for Brazil instead of cheering for their neighbor Frenchmen… Got to love the European’s soccer spirit… they go nuts about these).
Trời, lại chính trị học, còn thêm thể thao học nữa, 1 đám các anh giai thật là nhố nhăn nhặn xị, cái blog của anh giai chủ nhà càng ngày càng giống cái chợ giời, không hơn không kém
chẳng lẽ tài hùng biện của các anh giai chỉ có thế thôi sao? những cái đầu rỗng được bọc trong thứ ngôn ngữ kiêu sa cũng không che đậy được sự dốt nát
hahahaha
p.s: nhìn cái tên tninjia lúc đầu là thấy nghi nghi rồi, không ngờ là cô Blue đây
“Dda ngo^n a(‘t dda qua’”.
:-)
Phong Lan – Germany is a strong team but you’re right they play defense most of the time. Sounds like you’ve been participating as much as we do. It’s cool! :D
It looks like those Italian men brought bad luck to any team they cheered for!:)
Agree, Argentina vs Holland will be a great game to watch.
England vs Sweden, on the other hand, will be a boring game. They know each other too well!
hehe.. hủm phải Blue… Blue là con em!!! Nhưng hum trước nó nói chiện gòi bít lun áh!!!!
- Nhưng thôi Nik, bỏ wa đê.. cũng đâu có chủ ý dzì đâu họ thấy kô đáng cãi nữa nên chuuển đề wa world cup!!
@TXN: yes, ABC will broadcast some games, not all of them. Most of them still will be on ESPN, ESPN2, or ESPNHD(High-Definition). You can click on my link to the schedule to see which game will be broadcast and timing.
@Phong Lan: you’re welcome. Please remember that the time on that schedule is Eastern Standard time, make sure you adjust to your zone time accordingly. I’m not responsible if you miss the games :) Yeah, same here, I would have to record some games too since they are playing mostly in the daytime here..gotta go to work :) Also, same as you, not a big fan of Germany.
@Phong: the reason we started to talk about World Cup instead because we don’t want to continue to argue with your ignorance. What? Are you upset because we ignored you? so you had to come back and restart? Just shut your mouth will you?
@htc: yep, Argentina vs. Holland will be good. How’s about Czech Republic vs. Italy? and Brazil vs. Croatia?
@vivo: bác cũng chạy lộn xộn qua đây nữa à? hehe… chuyến này Brazil đụng độ Autralia của bác chắc tôi với bác có gây lộn nữa rồi :)
@luat and others, please keep ignoring Phong and other like him, this tatic work, i would be much more interested in soccer
thanx =)
luat,
Yep, those two are also good! Oh gosh, there are so many good games to watch!!:(
I’ll be in trouble! Hopefully I won’t get caught snoring on my keyboard!:)
“What? Are you upset because we ignored you?… blah blah blah…”
giời, bác làm em sợ xanh máu mặt vì cái sự nhu nhược của bác đấy! chỉ làm được có vậy thôi sao? hahahah
em là em chấp cả 1 bầy các anh giai ở đây đấy, vậy mà các bác làm em thất vọng quá.
1 lũ các anh giai bất tài vô tướng hô hô hô….
Sợ quá! sợ quá!
To Phong (hay Nik),
Chi thuc su bat ngo khi biet ra em chinh la nguoi lam ra nhung “Qua Tang Am Nhac” that hay, dep, co y nghia… Cau be ma truoc gio chi nghi la con nho tuoi nhung tai gioi va rat la de thuong nen du em con nho chi cung da rat kham phuc cau be co ten Nik.
That dang tiec khi chi doc duoc nhung dong chu cua em o day. Phai chi em biet nhin lai minh, doc lai nhung gi em da viet, em se hieu tai sao o day ai cung bat dong voi em ca. Cho du anh Donny luc dau da co hoi no’ng va chu quan trong viec lien he chuyen doi link cua radio file voi chuyen PR cua HTP, nhung neu em la nguoi co van hoa va biet cach cu xu, em da khong dung nhung loi le nay de doi thoai voi nhung anh chi lon hon em rat nhieu tuoi, va da khong dua cau chuyen di xa theo chieu huong dang buon nhu the nay!
Chi nghi rang o day khong con ai co hung thu de tranh cai hay noi mot nua loi nao nua voi em dau, vi su khich bac, cong kich cua em khong chung to duoc dieu gi khac ngoai viec cho thay rang em la mot dua tre con!
O day khong ai co y chong doi em ca, ma chi do chinh em vo tinh tao ra su chong doi do thoi.
Mong em biet binh tinh lai, dung de su hao thang tre con lam mo mat khien cho hinh anh cua Nik, mot nguoi em chi rat quy, tro nen mat dep di nhe Phong!
Dang..this thread goes on forever. Phong you got what you deserved buddy for upsetting may ba su tu ha ddong o dday. :D
For all of you people outhere,
if you want to ignore Phong, please let his last blog be the last entry in this thread. Although it wasn’t the intention of visualgui, this thread is mainly about him anyway. Phong might take it personally at anything you write in here. If you want to change the subjec, start another blog. I’m sure phong will ignore your new blog. The guy is sill pissed cause donny hasn’t apologized. He’s just a kid you know.
donny, it appears many readers in here are interested in soccer and world cup as much as I am. Could you start a new blog about World Cup so everyone can participate in discussion? I’m sick and tired of this f***ing retarded kid, who’s craving for attention, keep interrupting our fun here. Thanks bro.
hehehe good one Luat, I like the idea, and I promise to drop one or two comments a day, until England take the WORLD CUP home. :)
tpn, make sure to keep your promise :) it will be one whole month before world cup’s over. As far as the cup goes, your bloody team will have to wait until 2066 to get the cup, 100 years after the ONLY time they got the cup in 1966 :)
Gửi những bạn vẫn còn quan tâm đến Hà Trần, đây là link dẫn đến một cuộc phỏng vấn của Hà Trần dành cho fans: http://www.hatranmusic.com/forums/index.php?topic=100.0
Chúc vui.
i’ll ignore you
i’m ignoring you
i did say i’m ignoring you
…
Ngộ ghê, ignore 1 người mà cứ phải nhắc đi nhắc lại, tự dặn lòng là mình phải ignore thì cũng khá là có… quyết tâm (??!!!!)
“I’m sick and tired of this f***ing retarded kid, who’s craving for attention blah blah blah….”
Thật ra mà nói, bề ngoài tuy giận lẫy ra mặt vậy chớ anh giai vẫn nuốt lấy từng lời từng chữ của em đấy nhá, nếu không sao anh giai cứ là phải nặng lòng để quyết tâm ignore vậy… he he he
Chị deeal: thì ra cũng có người quen trong đây hen. Cám ơn chị đã có lời khen trước rồi chê sau :D
Thật ra em không muốn “xây dựng 1 thương hiệu” ở chốn này, đơn giản chỉ là muốn “vui chơi” thôi, thì cũng như ai đó đã nói, em cần phải cố gắng rất nhiều để có thể cải thiện trình độ làm PR của em mà(???!!!)
Em có quan niệm thế này, em chỉ nhìn việc chứ không nhìn người, một con người dù có cố gắng mấy cũng không thể làm vừa lòng tất cả mọi người, huống hồ chi con người đó nay lại phải chịu trách nhiệm về hành động của cả những người xung quanh mình, em muốn nói đến HT. Nhiệm vụ của 1 con tằm là nhả tơ, chứ không phải là để quảng bá xem loại tơ mình nhả ra có phải là hàng thứ phẩm hay hàng hàng thượng phẩm. Chị hiểu em nói gì rồi chứ? ;)
Nếu chị đã biết đến mấy cái Quà Tặng, thì chắc chị sẽ biết phải tìm em ở đâu, em cũng sẽ rất vui khi nhận được email của chị, để còn “đàm đạo” về những chuyện khác (nói nôm na, bình dân là “tám”, hahha)
Thôi, không chơi nữa, lần này tới phiên tui ignore đây
Donny: why only ask for free CDs for your music critics? Heck, you should be able to get some kind of a Payola going :-)
Hi JT916…oops, I mean Khan. How are you doing? Thanks for the input.
Phong, con của cha
Tình cờ đi qua đọc được những dòng chữ của con viết ở đây, cha thật sự buồn và đau lòng lắm. Cha không ngờ đứa con ngoan ngoãn của cha mẹ ngày nào bây giờ lại ăn nói bừa bãi và không biết tôn trọng người lớn như thế. Sẵn đây cha cũng kể cho con nghe chuyện này mà con chưa bao giờ biết.
Lúc con mới sinh ra, cha mẹ có mời một ông thầy tướng số đến xem mặt mũi con và dự đoán xem số mạng của con thế nào. Khi xem con xong, ông thầy có nói với cha mẹ là “Thật tiếc quá. Thằng con này của ông bà sau này lớn lên khỏe mạnh và khá thông minh. Tuy nhiên nó cũng sẽ mất dạy và khó bảo cực kỳ. Nếu không dạy bảo khéo, không chừng cái miệng nó chẳng những hại cái thân nó, mà nó còn sẽ hại luôn gia đình ông bà đấy. Theo tôi nghĩ ông bà nên bóp mũi nó chết cho rồi” Lúc ấy cha băn khuăn lắm vì nhìn cái mặt chuột, mắt diều hâu của con cha cũng đoán được ông thầy nói đúng nhưng vì thương con mình nên cha đã không làm theo lời ổng.
Rồi con lớn lên, cha mẹ đã cố gắng hết sức để cãi số trời bằng cách dạy dỗ con đàng hoàng. Mười sáu năm nay biết bao công sức, con lớn lên cũng biết nghe lời làm cha mẹ cũng mừng nghĩ mình đã thành công. Không ngờ con quá thông minh, đã dấu đi cái mất dạy của mình trước mặt cha mẹ. Nếu cha không tình cờ đi ngang qua đây chắc có lẽ sẽ vẫn nghĩ con mình ngoan, ai dè nó khốn nạn đến như thế. Con có biết trong visualgui này tất cả mọi người đều lớn tuổi hơn con, có thể có người còn bằng tuổi cha mẹ nữa. Thế mà con ăn nói thô lỗ, mất dạy, vô học thức thế thì còn gì mặt mũi nhà ta nữa? Bây giờ cha đang hối hận, biết thế năm xưa bóp mũi mày cho rồi thằng mất dạy kia.
Thưa anh chị cô chú bác ở đây, thằng Phong tôi mất dạy thế, tôi là cha không biết dạy là lổi của tôi, mong mọi người tha thứ.
Đọc đến đoạn Donny so sánh Hà Trần không gửi tặng album với những nơi bán sách nào đấy tặng sách, thật sự rất buồn cười. Mình viết review trước hết vì yêu thích, viết một cách tự nguyện, tai sao lại đòi hỏi phải có cái gì tặng miễn phí mới chứng tỏ là PR tốt nhỉ?!
Nói chung cái blog này đã thành một chợ cười để thiên hạ vào đọc và cười đã đời rồi xách mông đi ra. Ôi những chú hề dễ thương! ;-D.
@Sol: getting free stuff is not that unsual for movie/music/book critic in America or everywhere else for that matter. The entertaiment industries more or less depend upon the “good word” from critic to sell their product. Often time people will base on the critic review to decide if they are going to buy/see that movie/music/book. So try to piss off the critics is not a good thing…just my 2 cents
???
:) OMG this is getting halarious !!
Cha cua Phong very wise guy !!
Violette,
that will be some lost to Ha Tran. when i first heard her “Ra Ngo~ Ma` Ye^u,” I thought how great it would be if that song is included in Putumayo world music so that we would gain more international audiences. I was very hopeful that Ha Tran will be the person to make that happen. But I agree, if this is really her comments on here, she does need to brush up on her CR a bit, actually a lot. Maybe she has forgotten how influental and how fast the news on the net travel for the fans outside of VN. It appears that it doesn’t really take much to ruin a person nowaday. I am looking forward to a day when Vietnamese musics are included in any international albums/events. Ha Tran should be that person. :)
Goosh, có lẽ mình sống ở nước ngòai lâu quá rồi thật tình không hiểu người trong nước họ nghĩ cái gì nữa
Thôi thì đành Amen đường ai nấy đi chỗ ai nấy ở vậy
PS: nói thế chứ tự nhiên nhận thấy mình cũng khớ là có khiếu xem tướng, mặc dù chẳng học qua thầy bà nào cả
hahaha, I didn’t check this Web for several days so I missed the converstation. Scan througth the thread I was so curious who can shut up the “whatever” guy but Cha Cua Phong is really a wise guy. He must be good at chatting in forums. I can’t stop laughing so hard, “dung la lay doc tri doc”
Hmm… I don’t know where the smart mouth is now? :)
oh no! you’re itching for it. why do you have to stir it up? :)
p.s. nothing to do while waiting for the world cup games? :)
ducster: I can’t do anything right now. At work but can’t focus :) The game between Germany and Costa Rica start in an hour and half :) Too bad I won’t be able to watch it live on TV.
ducster: oh I just can’t wait to see how the smart mouth respond to his dad. That’s all :)
The smart mouth will strike again because he knows he’ll have the whole forum for himself after the World Cup starts. His dad would have to be doubly vigilant of possible hit-and-runs during matches. If the (now toothless) mouth is silent he is granted as watching some games too so he might have some redeeming chances. If he strikes he goes down the toilet for good.
ryoko #146, I agree with you. Vietnamese music is going to be played and mentioned here and internationally, Ha Tran will be there in front (both a matter of judgement and an article of faith for me) and some of TCS are very adaptable to Western taste. His music has been played jazz, bossa nova, rock, and as you least expect it, medieval English.
A word to Violette: Artists are as emotional as you are, to say the least. As ryoko said, they make bad PR when they do it for themselves. Ha Tran’s talent and her dedication to quality should outweigh a hiccup or two. That’s my 3 cents before me too go watch the games.
Phong writes Vietnamese so “eloquently” but Phong ‘s dad deserves the crown !!
Wanting to kill time, i wandered into this website..read some of the original articles from the author of this website, and especially on TTHa’s cd..and i coudnt refrain from posting this lil msg: Dude, you are not a professional music critic, let alone a creditable one..all your so-called “reviews” are just merely based on your feelings and own preception of a performance, singer.. you have absolutely no musical training required to write a “review” !!! How the hell can you expect TTHa’s PRs to waste their time sending you FREE sample to “review” ????? Or is this a joke or a trick to get free CDs???? I LMAO knowing they brutally rejected your request. Well..to be fair..they could be a lil more polite, but hey…imagine they got bugged by a few guys like you every day..man..it’s totally understandable !!! Wake up dude!! Stick with what you are trained to do. If you want to “write to entertain yourself”, dont let it go public, read it to your mum, dad, or maybe friends ..so that can gratify your thirst of attention. But if you are serious about criticizing music, do yourself a favor, go pack some knowledge of music, vocal technique…and then go back to this hobby..because right now..you dont know what the heck you are doing and how it’s gonna effect some naive souls out there !
I wouldn’t buy anything, absolutely nothing from a VC biotch singer, period.
I am sure that the dude Phong is Ha-Tran-or-Tran-Thu-Ha’s VC father-in-law living in San Francisco.
Teo: I am sure that the dude Phong is Ha-Tran-or-Tran-Thu-Ha’s VC father-in-law living in San Francisco.
Bạn Teo có thể bất chấp sự tự trọng mà “sure” điều này thì thật không còn gì để nói.
Hơi buồn… cuời vì đến thời điểm này vẫn còn tư tưởng chống VC nặng nề như vậy.
Về chuyện ca sỹ và PR thì tôi không bàn đến, đấy là công việc của họ. Mình lấy quyền gì mà đâm bị thóc, chọc bị gạo đâu. Tư tưởng thiếu thiện chí và dân chủ như vậy chắc không phải đến từ cái gọi là “VC bitch” rồi. Qua một đoạn tranh luận nho nhỏ cũng đủ thấy nhận thức, văn hoá của những người tham gia đến đâu rồi.
Chuyện Review album, thiết nghĩ nên để cho người có chuyên môn làm việc này. Còn nếu là cảm nhận cá nhân, tôi sẽ sẵn sàng hưởng ứng. Tôi sợ làm kẻ phá hoại lắm. Dù rất nhiệt tình cũng không dám làm cái việc bạo ngôn như vậy.
Nhắc đến Hà Trần, cũng xin có câu hỏi nho nhỏ. Cái nghệ danh này tôi nghe ở Việt Nam từ những năm 97, không hiểu sao lại có bạn nói rằng đó là nghệ danh khi Trần Thu Hà sang Mỹ nhỉ?
donny calls his feelings and perception “reviews,” if that’s accepted among his friends, it should be fine with us mere visitors of the site. If once or twice he acted spoiled, give him that he did so among his friends, too. He will realize it soon enough, because both the good and the bad go public on his forum. Re Nhim’s comment: The Ha Tran moniker was given to the singer when she was starting out in VN years ago, this was written and published in various articles long before this “debate” on visualgui.com.
“Nhắc đến Hà Trần, cũng xin có câu hỏi nho nhỏ. Cái nghệ danh này tôi nghe ở Việt Nam từ những năm 97, không hiểu sao lại có bạn nói rằng đó là nghệ danh khi Trần Thu Hà sang Mỹ nhỉ? Nhắc đến Hà Trần, cũng xin có câu hỏi nho nhỏ. Cái nghệ danh này tôi nghe ở Việt Nam từ những năm 97, không hiểu sao lại có bạn nói rằng đó là nghệ danh khi Trần Thu Hà sang Mỹ nhỉ? ”
Cau^ tra? loi+` don+ gian? la` vi` kho^ng may^’ ai o+? ngoai quoc^’ bie^’t to+’i co^ Ha` Tran^` hay Tran^` Thu Ha` gi` do/, chi? biet^’ co^ ta qua Visualgui. Vay^ xin hoi? co^ ta dung` te^n gi` khi hat’ khi o VN day^? Hay la` lau^ lau^ doi^? ten^ cho vui??
“Chuyện Review album, thiết nghĩ nên để cho người có chuyên môn làm việc này.”
Ai noi’ la` chi? co’ ngu+o+`i chuye^n mo^n mo+’i co’ quye^`n binh` pham^? am^ nha.c, va` xin ho?i nhu+ the^’ na`o mo+’i go.i la` chuye^n mo^n. Du+`ng noi’ la` ngu+o+`i co’ kie^’n thu+’c a^m nha.c la` ngu+o+`i chuye^n mo^n, chu+a cha(‘c ho. la` ngu+o+`i bi`nh pha^?m nghe^. thua^.t xua^’t sa(‘c va` du+o+.c nhie^`u do.c gia? ye^u thi’ch.
Gosh, it takes so long to type Vietnamese with accented signs , but I have to do it, otherwise, someone is wandering around this page will think people in here have no “va(n hoa’”.
Anyway, Tan in #159 bring up the points.
Ai cung co the binh pham mot bai hat, mot ca si mot cach tuy y tren mot phuong dien ca nhan don gian la “thich, hay khong thich”, va cung chinh vi dieu nay, co QUA’ NHIE^`U nguoi ap dat mot cach sai lam : Thich = Hay, Khong Thich = Do*?. Con truong hop muon binh pham am nhac tren mot phuong dien chuyen nghiep, tat nhien nguoi ay phai co kien thuc chuyen mon ve am nhac nhu nhac ly, ky thuat thanh nhac va nhat la Ly Luan Am Nhac. Neu ai cung co the “binh luan am nhac” thi can gi phai co nhung khoa chuyen mon nhu Ly Luan Am Nhac de lam cai gi ??? Xin nen nho rang am nhac la mot nganh khoa hoc han hoi, tuan theo nhung qui luat nhat dinh cua toan hoc. Con ky thuat thanh nhac la mot chuyen mon rat la abstract, lien quan den nhieu nganh khoa hoc khac. Doi voi nhung nguoi thuong thuc binh thuong, ai cung co the bay to y kien cua minh ve thich/khong thich doi voi mot ca si, mot tac pham, mot ca khuc. Con neu de ma danh gia, binh luan va phan tich mot cach chuyen nghiep, nhat la nhu anh chang Donny gi do dang desperately trying to do, dieu nay khong phai la mot chuyen de lam..rat de vap phai truong hop misleading nguoi doc gia cua minh. Toi hi vong post nay da tra loi duoc nhung gi DTDT chua hoac la khong bao gio hieu duoc. Khong phai la tu hao ve kien thuc cua minh, nhung thuc tinh toi thay rat dang buon khi nhung nguoi co kien thuc han hep, khong chiu tim toi chu dao, ma cai tu tuong SELF thi qua lon, khong nhin thay duoc nhung dieu quan trong ma chi de cai tinh cam ca nhan nhat thoi lam mu mat, phat ngon bua bai. Cu tim vao xem nhung trang web dang tai nhung bai “review” chuyen nghiep cua My ma xem, se thay chuyen mon cua nhung nha review nay cao den muc nao, va chinh vi vay ho moi duoc su tin nhiem cua khach hang/doc gia khi tim kiem nhung thong tin ve mot van de lien quan. Con binh pham chi dua tren cam xuc ca nhan, khen che lam cam ma lai duoc nhieu doc gia yeu thich, thi nao co khac gi nhung to bao la cai dang tin nham nhi ma lai rat dat hang doi voi nhung ba noi tro hay ngoi le doi mach, doc vo van de ma giai tri !!!!
Would you point me to a “Vietnamese music criticism” publication or web site other than this one? Although I don’t always agree with what Donny writes, he has a very distinctive voice in his reviews. If you think you can do better, prove it.
Ca’i anh “Me” na`y kho’ ti’nh qua’ . Gia? thu*? anh qua Las Vegas coi “xie^.c” du Soleil, nhu*ng ve^` dde^’n dda^`u la`ng tha^’y ga’nh ha’t ti?nh le? tri`nh die^~n, desperately trying to entertain da^n la`ng, anh co’ che^ ho. la` ke’m chuye^n nghi^.p kho^ng ? Ho. co’ mu’a may quay cuo^`ng bu*`a ba~i hay kho^ng ? Anh cu~ng ne^n xem la.i ca’i SELF, vi no’ co’ ti’nh ca’ch ca’ nha^n ghe^ la(‘m dda^’y !
Xin the^m:
“One performs according to one’s gift,” (Eleanor of Aquitaine to Henry II, the movie “Becket”)
Be inclusive, don’t be elitist.
To be an amateur at any discipline is alright, to be encouraged.
Don’t put everything American on the altar, they have bad karmas too.
1. Hay tim doc nhung bai nghien cuu, binh luan am nhac cua giao su Nguyen Van Khe. Ong ay co rat nhieu nhung tai lieu nghien cuu ve am nhac VN.
2. Neu Toi thay mot “ganh xiec tinh le dau lang trying desperately to entertain dan lang”, toi cung se xem ho la kem chuyen nghiep neu nhung tro cua ho khong di toi dau cho du la toi co thich ho di chang nua. Toi thich ho, dieu do khong dong nghia voi viec cho rang ho chuyen nghiep !
3. Totally agreed with ” One performs according to one’s gift” PLUS ONE’S TRAINING ! . And, “to be amateur at any discipline is alright, to be encouraged”, yes ! But for someone to become a professional (ie. professional music critic who wants/demands music production to send review samples for reviewing, resulting in review articles publicized on websites which directly effect the production/singer’s reputation, sale), he must acquire the knowledge necessary, beware of the consequences, and be responsible towards those productions for his lack of credential in that field can adversely effect those productions/singers.
4. Toi khong co kho tinh lam dau. Chi vi la moi nguoi da tro nen qua de dai voi mot fine art nhu music. De nghe, va de tin. Day cung chinh la mot ly do vi sao am nhac cua VN con qua suc phoi thai so voi am nhac the gioi. “One [singer] can atmost be as good as one’s audience”.
Neu anh chang Donny kia cu tu nhien dua ra his opinion trong mot phuong dien ca nhan, de cho ba con vao doc choi va binh luan, toi cha co y kien gi. Chi vi thay anh ay doi hoi mot cach chuyen nghiep doi voi mot production(ie. muon xin free review sample de viet review va de roi dang tai tren cac website co khan gia cua nhung production/singer kia vao doc), trong khi chinh anh ay khong phai la mot nguoi co nhung kien thuc am nhac can thiet va lam viec nay mot cach amateur nhu la mot hobby, nen toi thay can phai at least len tieng mot lan.
“Me,” “Fake Name,” or whoever the hell you claim to be. Don’t try to hide by using different name every time you come here. I tend to ignore bitches like you that come to this site without even have the gut to write down a name, but you keep talking shit out of your mouth. Let me remind you that I do get review CDs from other singers, musicians, and strangely fans too. You know damn well this is not the first time you’ve come to this site. So don’t give me that bullshit about my writing. If my pieces don’t tick you off, why you keep coming back for more? The reason I leave the techincal terms out of my review because I don’t want to bore my readers to death with that AABA or 12-bar blues, E-flat, B-sharp shit. I don’t want to get paid to write these reviews because I like to say whatever I feel with the street level I wanted to incorporate into my style. There were a few magazines asked to write for them but with my language toned down, and I have refused. Why write for them when I can be my own boss and have my pieces access to the world? So that’s all I have to say to a “Fake Ass” bitch like you. And I will not waste any more time on this shit. I will write whatever I feel, if that hurts singers feeling, too bad. If that gets on your never, it’s all fucking good!
Đọc xong post này của Donny mới thấy Phong vẫn còn lịch sự chán!
Anh “Me” no’i nghe cu~ng co’ ly’ . Toi dong y het thay cac dieu anh noi, tuy nhie^n co’ mo^.t va`i ddie^`u:
1. “Am nhac cua VN con qua suc phoi thai so voi am nhac the gioi.” So sanh voi ai, ma de lam gi? Am nhac cua cac dan toc thieu so anh co cho la phoi thai hay khong? May nha musicologists khong cho ai la phoi thai ca, cho nen anh dung kho voi VN ta qua. Moi dan toc co mot qua trinh phat trien van hoa rieng, VN ta se co nen am nhac rat “sophisticated” vi rang nha.c a^m cu?a ta rat phong phu, cac am dieu tu Nam chi Bac thi vo so ke, cho nen chat lieu rat doi dao… Cu tin tuong.
2. Plus training… OK, cho nguoi ta train tu tu, se co luc ho gioi. Lam sao ma train cho kip may the ky nhac ly cua nuoc Y’, nuoc Ddu*’c, nuoc A’o, van van. Anh co thay Nhat va Han Quoc lam ky nghe xe hoi hay khong? Truoc ho lam do et, sau do lam tot hon, nay lam xe gioi nhat the gioi (noi ve mass-produced, popular cars thoi nghe, dung ban toi Lamborghini, Ferrari hay Porsche ma met lam). Do la ban choi, chu dung co ban tam chi ca, nghe anh.
Anh donny cu binh luan, ba con cu vo blog doc choi, chang co ai la professional ca, ke ca anh “Me” va toi. Co dong y khong?
To anh Me chi Me hay ong ba Me… Tam thoi goi la anh di. Anh Me noi dung o cho la “tui khong the hieu va se khong bao gio hieu” duoc nhung gi anh noi, noi dung ra la van bat dong y kien. Theo ly luan cua anh thi chi co ai ra truong voi bang cap am nhac hay phe binh am nhac moi co tu cach phe binh am nhac? Da co mon hoc Ly luan am nhac thi phai lay bang cap do di roi moi duoc phe binh am nhac? Bill Gate dau ra truong dai hoc van co the la ky su noi tieng, nhieu tai tu noi tieng Quoc te Hong Kong cung xuat than ban thit heo vay chu lam gi co bang dien anh hay nghe thuat gi, nhieu nha lanh dao the gioi cung xuat than han vi ma ho co hoc truong hoc chinh tri nao dau?? Sao anh biet Donny khong the la nha phe binh chuyen nghiep. Compare to a lot of Vietnamese critics and others on the web, he is a lot better. Tui “khong co trinh do cao sieu” nhu anh Me nen tui khong can phai nghe loi phe binh tu nhung nha phe binh ma anh goi la chuyen nghiep. Ho chua chac co same taste nhu tui…Thiet nghi cung khong can loi phe binh chuyen nghiep cho nhung nhac pham VN. Tui chi thich nghe nhac bang trai tim hon la bang kien thuc…Films won Osca prizes are fabulous films but not many people like them!!
Anh thuong hay nhan manh van de chuyen nghiep vay thi anh dinh nghia nhu the nao la chuyen nghiep. Ganh xiec dau lang ma anh cho la kem chuyen nghiep. Ho co the khong hay theo y anh nhung ho van la nhung nguoi chuyen nghiep vi da dien xuat nhieu lan cho nhieu khan gia xem. Ho khong dung nhieu tuyet ky hay ky thuat tan tien vi thieu dieu kien chu dau co nghia la ho khong chuyen nghiep. Tieng Viet rat hay, chu ” chuyen nghiep ” da tu giai thich y nghia cua no, lam mot viec gi nhieu lan la chuyen nghiep, con lam viec do hay hay la khong hay la do nguoi ta phan xet. Khong biet anh co cho nhung nha bao viet bai cho bao la cai la khong chuyen nghiep khong? Ho co ra truong va co bang cap la cai chac…
Đến bây giờ thì cái “phông văn hoá” của những người viết “review” đã thể hiện rõ hơn. Thật đáng ngại.
Anh DTDT nói rất đúng, không cứ có bằng cấp chuyên môn mới làm tốt công việc. Không ai có thể phản bác lập luận này. Nhưng vẫn cần phải nói rõ những người làm tốt là người có kiến thức hoặc am hiểu về cái họ làm.
Rất nhiều nhà báo có bài bình luận mà không hề có kiến thức âm nhạc. Mặc dù vậy, đọc lên có vẻ “hay ho” và “hấp dẫn”. Tuy nhiên những điều đó không đồng nghĩa với một bài review có giá trị mà chỉ là những sản phẩm “lá cải” đáp ứng những người ít hiểu về nó. Vậy xét về trường hợp của Donny, ta có nên ủng hộ không nhỉ? Có thể Donny có giọng văn hấp dẫn hơn Giáo sư Trần Văn Khê, nhưng điều đó không có nghĩa là Donny có kiến thức về nhạc. Và tất nhiên, một người có kiến thức hạn hẹp về âm nhạc và vốn văn hoá của người chưa tròn 30 như tôi đọc bài Donny cũng có thể thấy rõ mức độ am hiểu về nhạc của Donny đến đâu. Tôi được biết một số nhạc sỹ gốc Việt như Nguyễn Thiên Đạo hay Nguyên Lê có viết một số bài phê bình ở nước ngoài, dù họ không phải “review” chuyên nghiệp, giọng văn không đủ “lá cải” nhưng kiến thức họ truyền đạt chắc chắn không thiếu. Và tôi thấy hâm mộ “kiến thức” của họ.
Mặc dù người ta vẫn nói “Có bột mới gột lên hồ” những vẫn có người vã nước lã nên những thứ vô giá trị rồi tự tưởng tượng về mình. Và thực tế những thứ “lá cải” như thế vẫn được quan tâm nhiều đấy chứ. Chả thể mà đa số báo bán chạy là báo lá cải.
Về câu trả lời đối với cái tên “Hà Trần” của DTDT: Cau^ tra? loi+` don+ gian? la` vi` kho^ng may^’ ai o+? ngoai quoc^’ bie^’t to+’i co^ Ha` Tran^` hay Tran^` Thu Ha` gi` do/, chi? biet^’ co^ ta qua Visualgui. Vay^ xin hoi? co^ ta dung` te^n gi` khi hat’ khi o VN day^? Hay la` lau^ lau^ doi^? ten^ cho vui??
Tôi xin từ chối nhận câu trả lời này bởi anh không hiểu câu hỏi hoặc có thể anh không thiện chí khi trả lời câu hỏi của tôi.
Chúng ta đang bàn đến những cái chúng ta không biết à? vậy có phải là ngồi lê đôi mách hay trở thành dân nói xấu “chuyên nghiệp” không? Tôi không dám nâng “tầm” mình “chuyên nghiệp” đến như vậy.
Me, Nhim, your comments are not contructive comment, it down right to personal acttack, and try to discredit Donny and bellitle his readers. But you did not realise that Donny give you a privileged to come to his site to rant about him. May I suggest that you take your poison pens to your own site to do it and let us move forward.
Anh Nhim, anh noi nhieu cai rat dung, nhung rat tiec anh dung cai giong ke? ca? lam kho chiu nguoi nghe. Chung ta nen “chuyen nghiep” hon trong luc tranh luan, nen bat chuoc cung cach “khach quan” cua cac co quan truyen thong ma trinh bay su viec hay quan diem cua minh. Cai thien chi cua minh no mang lai cai thien chi cua nguoi ta, them vao do neu anh am tuong su viec thi anh dau can phai ra ve “kho chiu” trong khi trinh bay quan diem cua minh. Tom lai, toi thay anh noi dung, nhung phe binh sai. Neu Donny co che ai ma khong hop y anh, thi anh dung kien thuc cua minh ma mo rong cho moi nguoi trong dien dan nay. Neu duoc nhu the thi minh se chuyen nghiep hon, va chang may choc se khong con ngoi le doi mach nua. Den day, toi xin anh mach chuyen cai ten Ha` Tra^`n cho moi nguoi ro. Cam on anh.
Wow, looks like people don’t understand what I’m talking about and it is hardly for them to get the points. They don’t know what they wrote about either, better re-read the comments that you wrote, follow the posts again and read people reply to your comments before having more and more contradictions in the writings. It such a waist to write down my comments. Instead of writing a long journey to quote and explain the flaws in your writing [gosh] may be using direct words like tpn in #172 would make them understand better.
To Donny, sorry to trash your site with these but I can’t stand it… so I have to reply. Not anymore.
I meant long “journal”. That’s how it happens when mutiple things are in your mind.
Cám ơn Tan đã góp ý. Tôi cũng chỉ là người bình thường nên cũng khó tránh việc kiềm chế cảm xúc bản thân. Tôi thì không quan trọng chuyện đúng sai mà vấn đề là trao đổi để tiếp thu thôi. Một lần nữa xin cảm ơn những góp ý nhé.
Về chuyện có nên hay không nên tiếp tục câu chuyện này hay không thì bản thân tôi thấy không cần thiết. Thôi thì tạm biệt visualgui theo đề nghị của bạn tpn. Tuy nhiên, còn điều này cần nói với bạn. Tôi chưa bao giờ có ý định dùng poison pen đối với bất cứ ai. Tôi nghĩ bạn Me cũng vậy, dù không biết Me là ai, nhưng bất cứ ai nhìn thấy chuyện “bất bình” đều sẽ phản ứng như vậy thôi. Có điều mình nói ra quan điểm có căn cứ, kiến thức và văn hoá.
Tôi không có website riêng như Donny mà chỉ có một blog trên 360 yahoo để viết về những điều tốt đẹp chứ không hề rao rẻ cuộc đời này. Nếu bạn quan tâm và có thể ghé qua, tôi xin chào đón.
Why is that? Many people are wasting time talking about Tran Thu Ha. She’s not worth a penny. Check out her new demos I must say they are all suck. What the hell are those people and she trying to do? I have no clue. The guy Xinh Xo sounds like a crying girl. And who is Hoang Ngoc anyway? It sounds corny as hell. They try to hard for a version of Madonna want-to-be.
Donny was so right. This VC bitch is not worth a penny.
hey Khan…How’s the golf game?
buon qua :-(((((((((
Donny, Nhim, and Me,
deeal biet cac ban la ai, hieu cac ban la nguoi nhu the nao nen doc nhung dong cac ban viet cho nhau ma thay buon vo cung tan !
chung ta co the nao noi chuyen voi nhau ma dung voi nong gian, dung voi noi chuyen bang giong ke ca boi nhung bat dong y kien, bat dong quan diem, dung voi nhin nhau bang anh mat thu dich duoc khong cac ban ? Deeal nghi neu cac ban that su mong cho cuoc noi chuyen cua chung ta co duoc ket qua nhu mong muon, co y nghia, co gia tri, chung ta thu+? ra’ng binh tinh va noi chuyen on hoa voi nhau (cho du co dang buc xuc den muc do nao) duoc khong ? Su nong nay, cong voi nhung loi le khich bac, khong thien chi chi cang lam chung ta khong hieu nhau them….. deeal thay that dang tiec qua … :-(((
donny donny donny…. be calm nhe anh !
chao ban minh ten la truc rat han hanh duoc lam quen voi ban
I ought to mind my own business but I am one of those who can’t sometimes. So I am giving my two cents to Donny.
First, regarding your reviewing Vietnamese music, I have read several of yours and some, I must say, I like very much. However, your asking for a free CD so that you can write a review while stating that you are not a professional critic appear to cynical mind like myself as a way to get a free CD period. You claim that you should be given one since buying them is expensive is one I find disheartening to read. If there is one thing about Americans that we Vietnameses should learn, be it you, me or HaTran, is that they go all out for things they love regardless of cost. You love music? Then spend your money on it. Don’t ever expect someone else to foot the bill for you. Your review would then be completely free of influence or nepotism therefore is valuable. Otherwise, don’t bother.
Secondly, ask yourself this question: How big (dollar-wise) is our oversea music market? You really can’t compare it to the US market. We have few millions scattering around the world while there are 300 millions on US soil alone. The publisher of the books you reviewed is one employing at least a few individuals tracking blogs mentioning their books for market study. HaTran surely cannot afford to hire one. Hers is not even a major company in our community. This is why she contracts with Thuy Nga. Every Vietnamese know that any ??? production company in our community is mom & pop compare to Americans’. Even Thuy Nga and Asia. The quality of their products says it all. Poor in every aspect in compare to Americans’. The most annoying habit of Vietnameses media people is this habit of demanding gift in exchange for their review. It seems every one thinks he/she is entitled for compensation for his/her opinions writing effort. If every who can write two sentences about a CD request a CD from the singer, he/she might as well go flip burgers at McDonald; he/she would get to keep more of his/her earning.
I hope you understand my points.
Onto HaTran musics. I used to like her singing. Her voice and technique are still good, but I don’t really care for the latest CDs. It’s not hers alone, it’s the entire music industry in Vietnam and here. The lyrics are written by fifth graders apparently, ridiculous to hear, and the music is bits and craps of American’s and Vietnamese’s, completely lacking melody.
I bought two CDs two days ago: Bang Kieu’s ‘Va’ la.i ti`nh to^i’ and TTHa’s ‘Communication 06′. I was disappointed, felt I’d wasted $16. The new song writer TTH is promoting ‘Nguyen Xinh Xo’ should go back to farming. And I wish the Vietnameses would quite writing English lyrics. Tran Tien’s songs are OK but offer nothing new or interesting. Ha’s voice, good as it is, and her technique, sound as it is, couldn’t save the CD.
Well, I have said enough. God to go get my senior nap. Thank you for the opportunity to voice my opinion. Keep up with your expensive passion.
I did listen to a few “old” songs from Ha Tran, and I think her singing style is great and very creative.
I also had a chance to listen to some samples of her new CDs. Honestly, I felt so disappointed with the lyrics. Her new CDs, I have to agree with other writer, do not worth a penny.
This is simply just my opinion. And I don’t think Vietnamse Community in US welcome her anyway because of her background. One day, I hope peoples just put away their political ego, give her a warm welcome and few contructive advices.
It’s sad to see a great talent singer like that has to struggle to survive in our own community…
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Ha Thanh Lich ‘s mansion is the preserved historic home for the 2000s modern Vietnamese music of the 21 st century. The historic mansion is the somewhere that poetic lyrics and musical compositions of the famous, symbolic and existing composers: Trinh Cong Son, Duc Huy, Ngo Thuy Mien , Thanh Trang, Truong Sa, Pham Duy, Vu Duc Sao Bien, Nhat Ngan, Truc Phuong, Duy Khanh va Nhat Truong etc… are transformed to the world class pieces of Arts arranged by the flawless craftsmanship of the deeply sensitive, delicate musical professor: Minh Quan, D.A.. Moreover, These arranged musical pieces of Arts are performed elegantly by epically vocal artist, Ha Thanh Lich and the metamorphoses. Furthermore, They are selected diligently, retained detailedly, preserved carefully and exhibited artistically every note like a single flawless diamond by the certified audio engineer: Theodore Stone Becker. In addition, the media Kim Cuong Empire undeniably has great contribution for support and encourage any ideas of innovation, experiments, newness and novelty.